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09 Sep 2022, 2:13 am

That's a good Russiagate meme.



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09 Sep 2022, 2:15 am

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What a bizarre culture.


Not everyone in the US shares the same feelings.

What we do share (or should share) is that each of us has the right to their own passions.

Guns are a special interest and passion of Dox's.

And I'm quite fond of Canada, personally.


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09 Sep 2022, 2:41 am

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What we do share (or should share) is that each of us has the right to their own passions.
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A lot of Americans have no idea why their country is the way it is. I wouldn't use the word "bizzare" but in the western world I would classify the US as culturally unique.



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09 Sep 2022, 2:50 am

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I wouldn't use the word "bizzare" but in the western world I would classify the US as culturally unique.


i agree its unusual to me too . it can appear ott to british and probly most european people .



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09 Sep 2022, 3:59 am

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cyberdad wrote:
I wouldn't use the word "bizzare" but in the western world I would classify the US as culturally unique.


i agree its unusual to me too . it can appear ott to british and probly most european people .


Americans are created creatures of their own history.



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09 Sep 2022, 6:52 pm

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09 Sep 2022, 9:32 pm

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Unlikely. She believes in her husband and holds many of the same grudges.

I'll never go after her because she doesn't hold nor has attempted to hold elected office, but its a myth to pretend she isn't on-board with her husband's thought process.


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09 Sep 2022, 10:56 pm

There are also theories that it could be her just to get trump out of the picture so she can be left alone with his money while he's elsewhere - like in court or jail. Sounds like a win for her..


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12 Sep 2022, 10:41 pm

The only special master candidate Trump and the DOJ can agree on: a 78-year-old judge appointed by Reagan

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The Department of Justice has signed off on one of former President Donald Trump's candidates to serve as special master and sift through the thousands of White House documents Trump stored at Mar-a-Lago.

The DOJ said in court filings that it would allow Raymond Dearie, 78, former Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, to act as special master, according to Reuters.

While Trump's team has rejected all of the DOJ's picks, the department's approval of Dearie marks a rare mutual agreement in the ongoing legal battle.

Dearie, 78, was nominated by Ronald Reagan and served in the US District court from 1986 to 2011. In 2012, he was appointed by Supreme Court Justice John Roberts to a 7-year term on the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, where he oversaw requests by federal investigators for surveillance warrants against suspected foreign intelligence agents inside the United States.

In his role as a judge in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, Dearie was one of five Republican-appointed judges who signed off on FISA warrants to surveil a former Trump advisor, Carter Page, to investigate his ties to the Russian government. Two of the four approved warrants were later declared invalid after the Inspector General found a series of misstatements and omissions in the applications by the FBI to get the court warrants to eavesdrop on Page.

If a special master is indeed chosen, he or she would likely need to have the highest national security clearance level in the US. Ultimately, judges appoint special masters based on their expertise, so in this case, the special master would have to be deeply embedded in the national security realm, experts told Insider.


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13 Sep 2022, 1:22 pm

Apparently now trump is arguing that the govt should have to pay for the special master or split the bill, something like that.. and the govt is saying no, you want it you pay for it. No ruling yet, but since trump doesn’t pay for stuff maybe this is how they scrap the concept of a special master if he refuses to put up the money.


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13 Sep 2022, 1:24 pm

Know what really scares me? Trump still has many supporters and allies within our government. Think on that.



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13 Sep 2022, 1:30 pm

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Know what really scares me? Trump still has many supporters and allies within our government. Think on that.


Makes me wonder how many of them are true cult members and how many are only doing it because they think if they oppose him it’ll be career suicide due to all the magas out there.


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13 Sep 2022, 1:35 pm

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DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Know what really scares me? Trump still has many supporters and allies within our government. Think on that.


Makes me wonder how many of them are true cult members and how many are only doing it because they think if they oppose him it’ll be career suicide due to all the magas out there.



And how many of them support him only because they believe they can exploiit the mess he's causing for their own gain.

It will backfire on them though. Just like it did for the Germans who believed they could keep Hitler on a leash.



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13 Sep 2022, 2:42 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Know what really scares me? Trump still has many supporters and allies within our government. Think on that.


Makes me wonder how many of them are true cult members and how many are only doing it because they think if they oppose him it’ll be career suicide due to all the magas out there.



And how many of them support him only because they believe they can exploiit the mess he's causing for their own gain.

It will backfire on them though. Just like it did for the Germans who believed they could keep Hitler on a leash.

100% it'll backfire - just that it could go 2 different ways..

1. They could go down with him like all the rest of the people he's thrown under the bus.
2. They could be responsible for enabling trump to really do irreparable damage to the US' democracy - which I'd Also consider a backfire; an unintended consequence of swinging from trump's nuts in order to benefit their political career in the moment.


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13 Sep 2022, 2:46 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
Know what really scares me? Trump still has many supporters and allies within our government. Think on that.


Makes me wonder how many of them are true cult members and how many are only doing it because they think if they oppose him it’ll be career suicide due to all the magas out there.



And how many of them support him only because they believe they can exploiit the mess he's causing for their own gain.

It will backfire on them though. Just like it did for the Germans who believed they could keep Hitler on a leash.

100% it'll backfire - just that it could go 2 different ways..

1. They could go down with him like all the rest of the people he's thrown under the bus.
2. They could be responsible for enabling trump to really do irreparable damage to the US' democracy - which I'd Also consider a backfire; an unintended consequence of swinging from trump's nuts in order to benefit their political career in the moment.



Exxxactly. We've all seen this sort of thing repeat in human history over and over again. It ultimately never ends well for any involved.