[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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That guy's nuts.

There certainly are civilians who aren't at fault for this.
Hostages should be tried to be saved.
Nuking Gaza would be pretty stupid.. nuclear wasteland right next door to rule over = ??? Dumb af.

Should be fired immediately.

Nuking them is clearly a bridge too far.

Dropping massive amounts of conventional ordnance on those civilians, on the other hand, is perfectly reasonable.

Depends.

If they’re right above a known and verified Hamas tunnel target And they know it and refuse to move in some sort of suicidal human shield move, thennn maybe.

That would be an extremely dumb move, considering that Israel and her neighbors would also be exposed to the subsequent radiation and fallout, if not also to the initial blast.

Israeli Intel Ministry Proposes Expelling Every Palestinian in Gaza to Egypt

Doctors Without Borders’ take:

https://fb.watch/o7OL3dlFiu/?mibextid=qC1gEa

Which I tend to believe to be factual, coming from politically neutral providers of medicine who don’t really give a flying f**k about the politics of conflict beyond how it affects their ability to do their jobs. (Not that they don’t care, just that professionally they’re neutral 3rd parties.)

Hard to disagree with them that shady s**t is happening that’s causing unnecessary civilian harm as well as stressing doctors the f**k out as they try to save lives and worry that the hospitals they’re working in could be levelled next.

I’m all for Israel’s fight against Hamas and their unwillingness to agree to a ceasefire.. just have better aim and leave the kids & patients and doctors etc alone.

Yes unfortunately
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknuts ... h-control/

I believe the state of israel dispute the claim though

You do know that HAMAS followed up the terror attack with rocket launchers into Israel (ironically using improvised pipes sent as part of Israeli aid to Gaza mean't for water and sewage). How exactly would you propose the IDF respond? I mean does any sane person think Israel should have allowed more of their citizens to be part of a HAMAS "duck shooting range"?

Of course the IDF had to respond, take out guns aimed at Israel. HAMAS were counting on that.

Read back through the numerous responses I and others have given you in this thread on this very topic if you legitimately want an answer. It’s all been covered many times already.

I do not condone war crimes or genocide.

t's not "My point of view".

But the reality of the facts.

*You're right about long posts: they're my problem.

I wrote books.

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Continue not reading what you don't like.

(I'm stepping aside from this discussion, I think it's better)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna123311

Once again, that's a lot of child fatalities.

HAMAS will keep firing from civilian positions full of children being used has human shields. Reports are coming in HAMAS are preventing women and children from leaving Gaza as instructed by the IDF.

It comes down to whom you believe.

I read your post better.

I'll try to answer you only for 10 points.

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1) Long posts: true, you're right.

I think like you, even if I tend to read them with fast reading or in any case I tend to read them, thanks because you responded in your own way and made me reflect on long interactions


2) You weren't rude, and I'm not leaving the thread because of you.

It's just that you can't help but read or edit posts without responding to the heart of the problem.

You did this : exactly.

I wasn't asking you to answer point by point, but only to read some passages because they are decisive, but you have thus avoided them completely.

3) I understand what you mean: I also perceive that you are in good faith, as well as direct, these are characteristics that I appreciate

4) I know about living in a horrible situation, because I have lived it. I hope you will never live it.

If you edit everything you can't contemplate it at all: it's not a criticism, I'm trying to point out this way of yours

5) The data is different from what you think, among other things

I know the story quite well, and what exactly is happening was predicted one of our politicians in 1958.

There are his declarations and he made it on a visit to Moscow officially invited by Mykyta Serhijovyč Khrushchev. Giorgio La Pira

6) Giorgio La Pira, there are books about him precisely on this. Through the analysis of unpublished documents collected in European and Middle Eastern archives.

The books reconstruct the complex and multifaceted relationship between Israel and a key figure in the political and religious panorama of the twentieth century, providing a contribution to the historiography of Jewish-Christian relations before and after the Shoah.

The volume also sheds light on the Catholic attitude towards the foundation of the Jewish State and on pacifism in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict and in the Mediterranean area.

7) These are not personal opinions on Palestine and Israel: one thing I cannot stand are the personal opinions and that's it, in fact many of us have written to you to read actual bibliographical references, which are there.

8 ) If you don't even read the posts of other users who have written in short and effective ways like Twilight Princess, which contains dozens of links to support what they write, you will never be able to understand that they are not also accompanied by

*human opinions from her part, but technically impeccable because

*Objective. I quote her because she speaks your language, and in support of her posts there are described actual facts, I love statistics and logic.

Her answers are always logical and documented.

Then she does it in a human way, adding aside from what upsets her emotionally, at least read her posts, but respond coherently on everything

9) I won't write you the point 10! You wouldn't read it I'm afraid.

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My posts were not written to be right but to outline things. Not many of you are doing that here.

9- Bis: I thank those who responded to my posts and also you who didn't you read them, but you interacted. You weren't rude, but I don't have a humanitarian point of view and that's it, I like data and I'm cold, not emotional.

p.s:
MBTI - professional evaluation of medical researchers with publications also in Science and other scientific journals my very accurate diagnosis of 8 months of research for a study for which I was selected as a suitable individual International scientific research USA and Italy together.

I tend to be very cold mentally :
Frosty.

It doesn't seem like it's here on the forum. Because I take a long time to write.

I don't understand some feelings, I'm alexithymic, I have it under diagnosis.


My first presentation here was "meet an alien" because my nickname at school was MR Spock, I studied logic at school for 5 years.
For me, scientific and statistical data, if objective, is impeccable.

Do you understand why yours are opinions and many Twilight Princess posts are well written?
They contain ironclad logic and data, publications.

It's not just human: a characteristic that I lack or don't understand about myself (alexithymia).

Hi
Huck Finn
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@Huckleberry Finn -- could you please provide more detail as to Giorgio La Pira's views on Zionism?

@Huckleberry

1. Ok cool
2. It was not my intention to make you leave this thread
3. ok cool
4. One of the things I learned interacting on WP is that whatever problems I think I am/was going through are not comparable to what others have gone through here, I respect that you and twighlight have been through stuff
5. - 6. I don't know the works of the authors you citing. But I do know that Jewish-christian relations have been really complicated over the past 2000 years.There was a point in my life where I was very interested in the messianic Jewish roots of christianity. It was deep, It may have influenced why I am so against anti-semitism
7. I myself am interested in qualitative and authentic accounts of lived experience. I find second hand sources from authors (particularly non-Jewish authors) they inject their own bias toward Jews and Israel whether positive or negative
8. From what I conclude from Twighlight, she is impacted by the suffering of innocent victims of the war. I actually agree that if it could be avoided then women and children should be left alone, But why is it when Israeli women and children are victims (and in a brutal unprovoked way) their suffering and that of their families is seen through the lens of past wars and the losses Palestinians have accrued? what about Israelis have been through?
9. There is no right or wrong answer, it really depends whom you ask. Based on their response you will get different answers.

Hi, I'm happy you wrote several interesting things, sorry if I didn't mention you too.

There are books with unpublished ones, one is from 2016.
He resumed his absolute beliefs.

"I am with Israel" he said with conviction.


But he was trying to influence the world's greats, and it was they who invited La Pira as the USSR of the time did in 1958.

He was sent directly to the Kremlin.

Do you know what he did? He went to Moscow, and made their president wait for 2 days before dedicating his presence to him.
In the meantime he went to pray in a church in Moscow.

He agreed to see Nikita Sergeevič Khrushchev (in Russian Ники́та Серге́евич Хрущёв as a dear relative of mine who is the head of an Orthodox Church 300 meters from the Kremlin would say), because he admitted Stalin's Crimes.

Give me time and I'll see if there are direct translations into English on La Pira.






All the presidents admired him.

There are books with unpublished works taken up 63 years ago!

I already have one but it is in Italian and I don't know if it has been translated into other languages, usually with great thinkers it happened that there was translation into many languages.


I'm sending you in two posts so it doesn't come in one of my usually huge posts.

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Also on Naqbah of other thinkers and here the years go back again to the year 2009 Return to Israel Raya Cohen.

Then let's see if I can find it directly on Giorgio La Pira in English.

Now I'll give you this abstact from the Ca Foscari University of Venice

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With bibliographical references meanwhile on the exact delineation of the events without personal opinions.

But objective and scrutinized.

D. Grossman, yesh-din.org/site/index.php
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www.btselem.org/english
32 www.acri.org.il/eng/


https://www.unive.it/pag/fileadmin/user ... 0Cohen.pdf
33 A. Peper, Hpzar: Nishkol Lishpot et Mejakolei Hativat Kfir, “Haaretz”, 24 May 2009. 34 A. Peper, Mikre Sarbanut Sheni BeHodshaim beHtivat Kfir al Reka Teanot shel Hitalelut be
Palestinaim, “Haaretz”, 28 June 2009.

Leggi cosa scrive anche Cohen Premio Pulitzer credo dati 18 ottobre scorso il suo scritto.


Già nel 2009 Raya Cohen scriveva di massacri ad opera dei soldati Israliani.

Ed era schifato.