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15 May 2013, 5:50 pm

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The context is irrelevant, I'm challenging the fact that you are now denying a previous statement.

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I've never said that they flat out knew


I understand the concept of Ockham's razor perfectly well, personally I consider what is important before posting.

So you applied the razor and shaved away down to the bare facts to form this:

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The Kids built the bomb with intent to harm the victim (for whatever reason), it explodes with them there unexpectedly (the kid was tossing it around when it went off, so it stands to reason they could have been expecting it to go off when they weren't there, or maybe they're just sadistic enough to want to watch, knowing that their reaction to the explosion could be seen as innocence) so they freak out and lie to save their own skins from punishment.


Seems like it is full of assumptions to me..............

I have seen many more opinions in your posts that I feel should be challenged. I did not want to derail the thread regarding a very serious matter and I tried to get it back on track before.

It seems to me that you want to win this argument at any cost, disregarding the facts and denying what you have previously posted.

Can I suggest that if you are not able to accept criticism then you should not put your opinions in the public arena.

Do not tell me what to do, you do not have any rights or power over and above me, or anyone else on a public forum.

P.S. Can you put your old signature back up, the current one just reeks of a temper tantrum.


If you don't want to "derail" a thread about a serious topic, then don't go around challenging people's opinions while taking what they said out of it's proper context and proceding to argue with them about it when your opinion of what was said is challenged. It sounds to me like you're the one that can't take criticism.
I haven't "denied" anything and context sure as h*ll is relevant, you sat there and changed the context of what I have said in order to suggest and claim that I have not only assumed automatic guilt on the suspects, but also have "denied previous posts" which is just not the case, not to mention the fact that you've gone with your own assumptions about me when doing so.
Second, that's all a theory is, is a set of possibilities that give a possible outcome, theories are the hallmark of conjoined assumptions, even the Razor is built on assumption if you want to really get technical.

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It seems to me that you want to win this argument at any cost, disregarding the facts and denying what you have previously posted.


That's another assumption about me that you've made, and an extremely incorrect one at that. This wasn't an argument until you started taking what I said out of context and even then, it was about what I have indeed said, once again I haven't denied anything. I don't care about "winning an argument", and I've formed my theories on nothing but the facts that I've been given such as witness testimony, what the victim has said, as well as what the bomb was made with. That's all we have, and that is what the theory is based on.
In fact, the way you've responded to my posts seems to suggest that it is you who "wants to win this argument at any cost, disregarding the facts".

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Do not tell me what to do, you do not have any rights or power over and above me, or anyone else on a public forum.

P.S. Can you put your old signature back up, the current one just reeks of a temper tantrum


You know, I deal with people like you all the time, it's always the same old story: you grab at straws, taking what I say and twisting it, always thinking that your opinions are supreme and everyone else's needs to be "corrected", then when called out on it and backed into a corner you resort to insult.
It's funny that you put those sentences right next to each other, or even in the post at all for that matter, and yet you dont' see the irony, what makes you think I'm going to change anything for you, someone who just got done with that little quote and then immediately procedes to tell me to do something? To me, you're no more than just someone sitting behind a computer, typing practical non-sense and insults at me while trying to suggest that you know what I meant in my previous posts, more than I do. Just because you might disagree with what I have indeed said, doesn't mean you're correct. And taking what I have said out of context for other people to see, will not make you look very good. In fact your posts are rather charged and they've become tiresome to read at this point.

Don't like what I have to say in my posts? Don't like my signature? Don't read them, problem solved. In the end I have just as much right to form an opinion of what may have happened, and to post that opinion, as the next person, if you don't like it, too bad, you have no more a say in what I post than I do of your compaining about it.

Good day to you.


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15 May 2013, 10:51 pm

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They said they found it lying around outside. As implausible as that sounds to somebody who never filled a ball with explosives and then threw it (you and me both), apparently Dox47 and his friends and older kids of his area did just exactly that using tennis balls and strike-anywhere matches. In his post, he also describes the older kids throwing them at each other out of cars, an action that would inevitably lead to some unexploded ones lying around outside.


I was thinking about it, and when I was a kid, we used to do all sorts of stuff like that, shooting bottle rockets at each other, throwing firecrackers, rigging up pull-n-pop tripwires, etc. In retrospect, someone could easily have gotten hurt, but we were never really thinking that far ahead or taking things that seriously. This would be Seattle in the 1990s, btw. My relatives from Eastern Washington had access to much stronger ordnance, and their stories often involved actual high explosives and gunplay, as opposed to the match head bombs and paintball guns I was messing with.

I always enjoyed the mailbox arms race that goes on out in the country, with the current gold standard being the double layer box made by nesting a smaller mailbox inside a larger one, pouring quik-crete in between the layers, then mounting it on an I-beam sunk into the ground. Try and hit one of those with a bat from a car and you're liable to break your arm. Enter the high explosives...


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16 May 2013, 2:35 am

Jaden

There is nothing much you have said in your previous post that carries any weight, it's just a load of guff.

Can I suggest you re-read the definition of Occam's razor that you provided a link for.

If you deal with many people who think your opinions are wrong then maybe there is more than a grain of truth there.

FYI the P.S. was sarcastic, the irony was intended.

If you come up with some useful theories or factual information that could further the discussion please do not let me hold you back.



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16 May 2013, 7:50 am

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There is nothing much you have said in your previous post that carries any weight, it's just a load of guff.

Can I suggest you re-read the definition of Occam's razor that you provided a link for.

If you deal with many people who think your opinions are wrong then maybe there is more than a grain of truth there.

FYI the P.S. was sarcastic, the irony was intended.

If you come up with some useful theories or factual information that could further the discussion please do not let me hold you back.


The people I was talking about was not people who think my opinions are wrong, I was talking about people who skew what I say into something totally different and then insult me when I call them out on it, much like you have. As I've stated, I could care less if people think I'm wrong, it doesn't even matter how many people do think I'm wrong, that doesn't mean that I am. I'm tired of people like you who think they can sit there and start whatever crap they feel like, then hide behind "jest" and "sarcasm" when I actually don't bend over and take it like other people.
And no, you may not suggest a d*mn thing to me, don't sit there and belittle me by telling me to re-read the definition of something as simple as Occam's Razor.
Also, don't sit there and pretend you won't jump on my theories the second I post them, I already know you will since you've stated that you were going to with everything else I've posted already.

It's a waste of time, at this point, to bother talking to you, and since I apparently have "carried no weight" with you, I guess I can expect you to act like a total d**khead whenever you pop up in topics that I participate in.
A word of advice: don't bother responding to my posts anymore, regardless of where or what topic, because I guarentee that you and I will end up having altercations in the future, simply because of the fact that you're an insulting pr**k who takes the mantle of treating other people like sh*t because you don't agree with what they have to say. I would never have any conversation with the likes of you and if I never see your username again in a googleplex of universal lifetimes, it'll be far too soon.

For specifics on what I am going to do about future responses from you, see my signature, then take a couple of asprin for that headache.


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16 May 2013, 7:57 am

So you still have nothing to add to the discussion then Jaden?



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16 May 2013, 12:03 pm

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So you still have nothing to add to the discussion then Jaden?


I've added plenty of things to this topic, what the h*ll does it matter to you what I post next? Getting bored and waiting for more to complain about? I've made my thoughts on you perfectly clear, take the d*mn hint and leave it be. Stop acting like a d*mn 4 year old by trying to p*ss me off! Learn when to stfu and get off my back! Do you have a problem with leaving me alone? If not I suggest you drop it and grow up.


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16 May 2013, 12:17 pm

Stamp your feet a bit harder, you might just hurt yourself.



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16 May 2013, 12:44 pm

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Stamp your feet a bit harder, you might just hurt yourself.


Respond with stupid crap like this a bit more, you might just convince a few more people that you're a complete *sshole.


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16 May 2013, 12:52 pm

You said you were going to live up to your mature signature so that I could recover from the beasting I have received.
Now you just want me to leave you alone so you can continue to fabricate ideas that feed your own sense of self importance.
I just can't keep up with you?



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16 May 2013, 1:11 pm

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You said you were going to live up to your mature signature so that I could recover from the beasting I have received.
Now you just want me to leave you alone so you can continue to fabricate ideas that feed your own sense of self importance.I just can't keep up with you?


Nice way of describing yourself there, cause that statement is a complete fabrication and it, as well as your other posts and your "holier than thou" attitude, have been to feed your sense of self importance.
I know that my comments give your life new meaning and they must be the greatest thing for you, but seriously, shove off.
If you continue this bullsh*t I will report you for harassment. I've told you three times now to knock off your bullsh*t, and my patience has run out. If you want to continue to troll, do it on someone else's time.

Once again, for the last time, shove off.


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16 May 2013, 1:20 pm

Tedious ideas of grandiosity again.
I just can't help reacting to you, I'm truly sorry.
Go ahead and report me, I have remained civil to you.
When your arguments fail you resort to insults, dictats and empty threats.
If you make theories out of swiss cheese I will be coming back for another bite.



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16 May 2013, 2:12 pm

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Tedious ideas of grandiosity again.
I just can't help reacting to you, I'm truly sorry.
Go ahead and report me, I have remained civil to you. 1
When your arguments fail you resort to insults, dictats and empty threats. 2
If you make theories out of swiss cheese I'll will probably come back for another bite.


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P.S. Can you put your old signature back up, the current one just reeks of a temper tantrum.

Insult that you had made.

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It seems to me that you want to win this argument at any cost, disregarding the facts and denying what you have previously posted.

Falsehood.

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So you still have nothing to add to the discussion then Jaden?

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Stamp your feet a bit harder, you might just hurt yourself.

Insults aimed at angering me, and only for that purpose.

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Now you just want me to leave you alone so you can continue to fabricate ideas that feed your own sense of self importance.

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Tedious ideas of grandiosity again.

Insult and fabrication.

These are not the marks of someone being "civil".

2: It's not an "empty threat", I've just reported you. I've told you time and time again to let it be and leave me alone, and all you can do is sit there and continue your crap. Enough is enough.


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16 May 2013, 2:20 pm

i just can't bring myself down to your level.



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16 May 2013, 2:30 pm

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i just can't bring myself down to your level.


Yet another insult. You fail to see that your only digging your own proverbial ditch. Honestly, you're like the energizer bunny of bullsh*t.

Pull out your d*mn battery.


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16 May 2013, 2:35 pm

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Honestly, you're like the energizer bunny of bullsh*t.


This is properly funny. :lmao:



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16 May 2013, 3:45 pm

That's quite enough with the personal attacks, thank you.
Any more of it will result in this thread being locked.


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