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20 Aug 2014, 12:16 pm

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What capitalism does is raise only a small segment from the lower to middle class, a VERY small amount from the middle to upper class. The lower class exists in a tug of war between staying in lower and falling into poverty while poverty is the bottom of the hole and they have the weight over everything on top of them. The system is rigged so that there always is a vast low and poverty class otherwise the entire structure collapses. Its the basics of capitalist economic theory: There must always be growth via cheap labor.


The reality is that Capitalism has elevated every class immensely. The lower middle class of today lives pretty much as well as the very wealthy before Capitlism. The greatest increase in standards of living is among the lowest classes of Capitalistic countries.

I have absolutely no comprehension why anyone would wish us to return to the widespread poverty that we had before the development of Capitalism.



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20 Aug 2014, 1:49 pm

Enough with imitating Karl Marx already ! !!

Ebola is spreading ! !! Liberia is doomed.

http://news.yahoo.com/clashes-erupt-sea ... 47266.html

I'm stocking up on canned goods.


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20 Aug 2014, 1:53 pm

The locals seem to think it is malaria.



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20 Aug 2014, 6:50 pm

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The locals seem to think it is malaria.


It would seem that they don't understand germ theory.


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20 Aug 2014, 10:19 pm

^Get lots of toilet paper before there's a run on it.You can make do with lots of things but you don't want to run out of this in an emergency. :D
More scary Ebola news.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... -285206837


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21 Aug 2014, 12:36 pm

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A boy tries to prepare his father in their one-room home before they are taken to an Ebola isolation ward in Monrovia. (Photograph by John Moore, Getty)

This picture makes me so sad. The boy is caring for the father and is likely to get Ebola himself. Look also at the one room house they lived in, and their possessions. They are in the West Point neighborhood that was just quarantined in its entirety. Something like 50,000 people trapped in a densely packed small area of wall to wall shacks, poor sanitation, food shortages, no protective clothing, etc... with Ebola .

I couldn't make up a worse scenario in one of my fiction stories.



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24 Aug 2014, 9:52 am

The U.K. is flying an infected citizen home for treatment.
So, we'll see how well the NHS handles Ebola.



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24 Aug 2014, 8:41 pm

The sickness in the Congo, which the WHO previously denied was Ebola, actually IS Ebola. Eight people were tested, and two of them tested positive. One of those two had a strain of Ebola that's a mix of the Sudanese and Zaire varieties. 80 other people are under observation.

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30 Sep 2014, 5:03 pm

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I wouldn't panic about someone, possibly an aid worker or a missionar, who had recently returned from West Africa and was then found to have symptoms of ebola. There is, as yet, no sign that anyone else was infected. I am sure that they are checking everyone he came into contact with since his return. Also, don't forget that ebola is not thought to be contagious until symptoms are about to show or are already showing.



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30 Sep 2014, 5:43 pm

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I wouldn't panic about someone, possibly an aid worker or a missionar, who had recently returned from West Africa and was then found to have symptoms of ebola. There is, as yet, no sign that anyone else was infected. I am sure that they are checking everyone he came into contact with since his return. Also, don't forget that ebola is not thought to be contagious until symptoms are about to show or are already showing.


uh.. its MOST contagious when symptoms are showing not that people are 'not' contagious until then.

The problem with tracking down people that this guy has been in contact with is that those would only be the ones the man remembers. Its hilarious the media portrays ebola like some sort of nasty AIDS that you only can catch if someone squirts blood, exchanges sexual fluids or you get injected with an infected needle with... ebola is literally no different than the flu virus except it is not airborne (yet) and it does not seem to survive long time outside the body like the flu does.

Studies of this virus show that even though it is not airborne it can be transmitted via water particle spray...aka an ebola person sneezes in an aircraft (or an elevator or an enclosed space) and the people immediately around him inhale some of those particles.. and have a high chance of getting infected.

Those situations are the kind of people that cannot be traced...and those people go on their own way and can be a week or two before their symptoms show ..time in which they have a chance to similarly spread the disease.



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30 Sep 2014, 7:25 pm

Dantac wrote:
eric76 wrote:
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I wouldn't panic about someone, possibly an aid worker or a missionar, who had recently returned from West Africa and was then found to have symptoms of ebola. There is, as yet, no sign that anyone else was infected. I am sure that they are checking everyone he came into contact with since his return. Also, don't forget that ebola is not thought to be contagious until symptoms are about to show or are already showing.


uh.. its MOST contagious when symptoms are showing not that people are 'not' contagious until then.


According to the World Health Organization (WHO):
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The incubation period, or the time interval from infection to onset of symptoms, is from 2 to 21 days. The patients become contagious once they begin to show symptoms. They are not contagious during the incubation period.



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30 Sep 2014, 8:33 pm

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I knew this was going to happen. We're f****d.



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30 Sep 2014, 8:50 pm

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I knew this was going to happen. We're f****d.


Considering the odds of contracting ebola, you are far more likely to die from the flu or measles or rabies than from ebola.



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30 Sep 2014, 8:56 pm

I thought I got ebola this weekend, but it was only the flu.


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01 Oct 2014, 12:03 am

eric76 wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
AntDog wrote:


I knew this was going to happen. We're f****d.


Considering the odds of contracting ebola, you are far more likely to die from the flu or measles or rabies than from ebola.


In order to contract ebola, you have to be in contact with an infected person's bodily fluids. Considering how far a sneeze can travel, along with the dormancy period of the symptoms, I wouldn't be surprised if more cases start popping up.