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Obama helped out an unknowable mass of Anti-Al Assad elements we had hoped would prove to be pro-democracy. Some of them might have been what later became ISIS. It's also true that Obama's been killing them right and left with surrogate Anti-ISIS fighters, drones, etc.
The American right has been enamored with Putin years before ISIS even appeared on the radar screen. But disloyal conservatives like Hucksterby has been singing his praises at the detriment of our elected President, especially in regard to Putin's homophobia contrasted with Obama's actions to include the LGBT community into mainstream American society.

Please don't make me laugh. If you think America is attacking people and starting proxy wars because it loves democracy, then I don't even know where to start. He's also been killing innocent civilians with drones which has helped to create ISIS types. Lol, I'm sure Obama cares so much about homosexuals. I don't care about the motives of other corrupted people on the other side, Obama is a fraud and has been a horrific President.

The Atlantic: Why Some People Think a Typo Cost Clinton the Election A misleading email from a campaign staffer was just one mistake that helped Russian hackers steal data from Democrats.

Why not? Why shouldn't American motives for promoting free government ever be true? Consider the possibility that it's on the receiving end in Syria that screwed things up, as they didn't care to understand democratic government, but were so enthralled with radical islam. I think George W. Bush even believed he could spread free government in Iraq, but proved too naive in believing it would actually take.
And what do you mean saying "I'm sure Obama cares so much about homosexuals"? Do you question that he cares about oppressed minorities? And if so, why?

Oh please!
The LGBT community was included in mainstream American society before your buddy Obama came along. Anything they got on account of him, real or imagined, they were destined to get anyway.

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor

That's like saying LBJ didn't deserve credit for civil rights legislation, because it was inevitable anyway. Maybe so, but it can only happen when a particular President leads the way in either case. Maybe someone else would have signed civil rights legislation into being, maybe someone else would have pushed for the legalization of gay marriage, but it was Johnson and Obama who made history by doing it first.
By the way, with the homophobic forces of reaction, such as that led by Franklin Graham (cracker) and Mike Huckersterby, and those family values groups having such influence in red state America, LGBT rights were hardly a forgone conclusion. Today, trans Americans hardly have the acceptance of mainstream America that they deserve.

You want proof of Russian hacking? I got yer proof right here -- this is the only reason Trump won!

Defending an oaf...how nice.

The most oppressed minority in this country is (wait for it) obviously black people...in all aspects of their lives.

But the most important thing they've been shorted on is the most important thing that could lead to their civil growth:

BETTER SCHOOLING...I doubt many would disagree. And yet, in his 8 years of freeloading, what has he done to advance learning opportunities for black people????? This scum bag will rip off the American people to the tune of 4 million dollars for a round of golf with a nobody, while he turns his back on the poor and disadvantaged. He's nothing but a selfish pig, just like the rest of them.

And trillions are added to the national debt while anyone trying to save money will find they're forced to play the stock market while Obama's Fed gives money to big business at 0% to force the stock market higher and higher. What a swine (my apologies to all the honest swine).

The president can only do so much, when the house and senate block so many of his plans. I will never understand how people think things can get done if house+senate is just a bunch of whiny brats that don't get along much! How many times has there been times when they need to pass a bill to keep "federal government running" ? (Not just during Obama's terms, but overall).

It's unfortunate how horrible politics is in USA. So many pork filled laws pass time after time, even though many politicians say "lets trim them". Yeah right. Many many shootings happen, and laws against gun control don't happen because of NRA bribing/politicians that support NRA. So many homeless people. So many gang wars and so on. Most of these evil politicians are in it for money and power, not the American people.. period. There's so many big issues in USA that could be fixed (or just improved in general) if people in DC would just grow the hell up.

But let's get back to the issue at hand- Russia likely did hack the election. I don't care if Trump got more votes "legally" or not, he's a horrible person that has been hiring horrible person after horrible person. It's quite clear the next 4 years will be about helping his business and he will find (or make) any loophole to make it legal. House and senate will continue their fighting and whining, while bribes and scandals are covered up time and time again. So sickening.

Because they aren't. America has been involved in numerous coups across the world for decades either directly or indirectly. It has other thrown democratically elected governments and put in puppet dictators and supports brutal and corrupted regimes. It is only down to money and power and to pretend they do it because they love freedom and democracy is embarrassing. I wonder what your reaction would be if Russia or Iran blew up numerous countries around you or other threw elected governments around you and said they were doing it because they love democracy and freedom. You'd just laugh I'd imagine, yet you are blind to it when America are doing it or say they're just making lousy choices. They know exactly what they're doing, though their proxy Jihadi rebels in Syria look like they are going to fail. I mean do you seriously believe that the US backed a load of organ eating, head chopping Jihadis because they love freedom and want to take on "Islamic extremists"? And you think Iraq rejected being blown to bits because they just can't deal with being 'free'?
Obama is like pretty much all Western politicians in power, he will do as he's told. He doesn't care about homosexuals. I guess he forgot his moral compass when it comes to 'oppressed minorities' who are locked in prison charged with no crime.

John Podesta where a lot of the most damaging leaks came from fell for your standard phishing scheme, there was no hi tech espionage going on but rather pure incompetence. Podesta's password was seriously like 'p@ssw0rd', I can almost guarantee that more than just one entity accessed these documents so determining the source and motive would be impossible. Phishing is a pretty passive technique, most of us probably receive a number of those emails every day, any idea that Russia was insidiously directing things simply does not pass the smell test.

Now this kind of exchange can go on like this forever: It's white.....no no it's black....he's BAD....no, he's GOOD....that's right...no it's wrong........and etc.

If you just want to give your opinion, then fine...end of story. But if you want people to REALLY believe what your saying is true then you need FACTS, not just personal flights of fancy. Would you agree?

So let me ask you; about the gun control issue please tell us the specific cases of "NRA bribing/politicians that support NRA" especially that part about bribes....could you please name some names and incidents so we can confirm?

Also: You say "Russia likely did hack the election" can you say that definitely or are you just guessing? It only comes down to "It's black..no it's white".

And the same with all the terrible terrible bad mouthing you hurl at Trump when you know little about the man and less of high finance. There are other businessmen (and businesswomen as well) who buy undervalued companies, fire all the employees, and sell off the assets for a profit. Do you think this is worse than what Trump has done??? I do; and yet it's not against any law, just decency. Many business people face this legal/decency "divide" from time to time and make a judgment call based on many things..."different strokes for different folks" as they used to say. This is not your "run of the mill" everyday business decision; this balances the financial welfare of the employee against the financial health of the corporation and it's stock holders and there will always be hurt feelings.

Absolutely nothing this man plans to do will meet your approval (black, white, right wrongandonandonandon) with nary a fact directing you...only those whose sway, you seem to have fallen under. Keep an open mind and just view Trump by his results and not the hysteria we see around us constantly....it's not easy for me either.

But I have a feeling, that once the "peanut gallery" settles down, the American Public will realize a net gain before this is all over ...just a hunch...I wouldn't spend "real money" on it.

Funny how you conservatives damn Obama for not helping black people. When he was first elected, your leaders like Rush Limbaugh were damning him for favoring blacks. Can't win with you people.

I never said America's motives were always pure, but neither are they always wrong.
And why wouldn't Obama care about the LGBT community? Living as a minority in America, he's sympathetic toward any other minority that has been stepped on.

Do I really need to go in to all the ways this administration has f-cked up? If so this thread will go to s**t and end up locked. Whatever little Barry O did for your LGBT pals is paled by other things (e.g. spying on
American citizens, Arab Spring, morally questionable drone missions, Obamacare, doubled the deficit, etc...).

Why bring LBJ into it? The civil rights movement started before him and would have continued with or without him. About all he gave us was a prolonged war in Vietnam which he had no intention of winning, and he drove the south republican.

Besides, I thought you'd be boycotting me (again) after last week when you called me a bully and a troll.

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor

Cares about thier vote and that's about where it ends...

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor