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30 May 2017, 5:25 am

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Since you don't care to put your accusations/cliams of a person you're arguing with to the test, how about you just refrain from making them in the first place? I should be in the position of defending my opinions and arguments, rather than having to defend myself personally.


I'm only making observations, not making accusations.
And me, refrain from commenting on WP posts? That'll be the day!


Bill I know you're an intelligent person. And I believe you know the difference between making a comment about a post and making a comment about who posted it.

But perhaps this is a concept you're unable to grasp. So if it keeps constantly occurring, I'll just conclude that's the case and let it slide.


Trust me, I understand the difference. But after a while, one has to consider the political motivation behind heated posts.


Or invent it. It's okay I guess in that it gives me the opportunity to state the truth about myself in rebuttal to what you make up about me. Of course making stuff up about me, doesn't help your credibility much.



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30 May 2017, 6:00 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Since you don't care to put your accusations/cliams of a person you're arguing with to the test, how about you just refrain from making them in the first place? I should be in the position of defending my opinions and arguments, rather than having to defend myself personally.


I'm only making observations, not making accusations.
And me, refrain from commenting on WP posts? That'll be the day!


Bill I know you're an intelligent person. And I believe you know the difference between making a comment about a post and making a comment about who posted it.

But perhaps this is a concept you're unable to grasp. So if it keeps constantly occurring, I'll just conclude that's the case and let it slide.


Trust me, I understand the difference. But after a while, one has to consider the political motivation behind heated posts.


Or invent it. It's okay I guess in that it gives me the opportunity to state the truth about myself in rebuttal to what you make up about me. Of course making stuff up about me, doesn't help your credibility much.


I'm not making anything up. You just seem to be of a right wing political bent.


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30 May 2017, 6:03 am

Ezra, I am not so much interested in you as a person as I am in your argument strategy which is to repeatedly accuse others of personal flaws. Step it up a notch.



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30 May 2017, 7:46 am

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Ezra, I am not so much interested in you as a person as I am in your argument strategy which is to repeatedly accuse others of personal flaws. Step it up a notch.


The fact you hound/stalk me from time to time has been well documented by other WP users.

Now basically what you are saying is that if I point out the fact that certain types of behavior have been exhibited by the population at large, you take it as being directed at you personally. Which would explain why you act obsessed towards me, since you have indicated you think I'm always talking about you personally. The time you recently posted something along the lines of "Ezra, stop saying I don't have autism", out of the blue, is perfect example of this.

Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is or if you're just trolling. But I'm going to go with the latter and just simply troll you back.



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30 May 2017, 7:50 am

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...Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is ...

Seriously, get a new argument (and get over yourself.)



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30 May 2017, 7:53 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Since you don't care to put your accusations/cliams of a person you're arguing with to the test, how about you just refrain from making them in the first place? I should be in the position of defending my opinions and arguments, rather than having to defend myself personally.


I'm only making observations, not making accusations.
And me, refrain from commenting on WP posts? That'll be the day!


Bill I know you're an intelligent person. And I believe you know the difference between making a comment about a post and making a comment about who posted it.

But perhaps this is a concept you're unable to grasp. So if it keeps constantly occurring, I'll just conclude that's the case and let it slide.


Trust me, I understand the difference. But after a while, one has to consider the political motivation behind heated posts.


Or invent it. It's okay I guess in that it gives me the opportunity to state the truth about myself in rebuttal to what you make up about me. Of course making stuff up about me, doesn't help your credibility much.


I'm not making anything up. You just seem to be of a right wing political bent.


Oh okay. Well in that case I just decided that you just seem to have a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist bent - so that's what I'll keep telling you about yourself. I'll be sure to point it out often and repeatedly. What's good for the goose is good for the gander :wink:



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30 May 2017, 8:03 am

androbot01 wrote:
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...Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is ...

Seriously, get a new argument (and get over yourself.)


No seriously, what's it called with you thinking I'm always talking about you personally?



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30 May 2017, 12:19 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Since you don't care to put your accusations/cliams of a person you're arguing with to the test, how about you just refrain from making them in the first place? I should be in the position of defending my opinions and arguments, rather than having to defend myself personally.


I'm only making observations, not making accusations.
And me, refrain from commenting on WP posts? That'll be the day!


Bill I know you're an intelligent person. And I believe you know the difference between making a comment about a post and making a comment about who posted it.

But perhaps this is a concept you're unable to grasp. So if it keeps constantly occurring, I'll just conclude that's the case and let it slide.


Trust me, I understand the difference. But after a while, one has to consider the political motivation behind heated posts.


Or invent it. It's okay I guess in that it gives me the opportunity to state the truth about myself in rebuttal to what you make up about me. Of course making stuff up about me, doesn't help your credibility much.


I'm not making anything up. You just seem to be of a right wing political bent.


Oh okay. Well in that case I just decided that you just seem to have a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist bent - so that's what I'll keep telling you about yourself. I'll be sure to point it out often and repeatedly. What's good for the goose is good for the gander :wink:


I never said that wasn't your right. Do whatever makes your little heart's content.


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30 May 2017, 1:09 pm

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I never said that wasn't your right. Do whatever makes your little heart's content.


I believe my heart is the same size as yours, unless yours has become enlarged.



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30 May 2017, 4:33 pm

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I never said that wasn't your right. Do whatever makes your little heart's content.


I believe my heart is the same size as yours, unless yours has become enlarged.


I hope not; therein lies potential heart failure. :pale:


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30 May 2017, 5:54 pm

EzraS wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Ezra, I am not so much interested in you as a person as I am in your argument strategy which is to repeatedly accuse others of personal flaws. Step it up a notch.


The fact you hound/stalk me from time to time has been well documented by other WP users.

Now basically what you are saying is that if I point out the fact that certain types of behavior have been exhibited by the population at large, you take it as being directed at you personally. Which would explain why you act obsessed towards me, since you have indicated you think I'm always talking about you personally. The time you recently posted something along the lines of "Ezra, stop saying I don't have autism", out of the blue, is perfect example of this.

Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is or if you're just trolling. But I'm going to go with the latter and just simply troll you back.


How is she hounding you? She made a thread and you inserted yourself into it. It seems like you might be the one doing the hounding, and also bullying (saying people have been gossiping about her to you via PM is a way of bullying someone, with the intention of making them feel excluded and targeted by others.) All you have done in this thread is personally attack her for making the thread and being "crazy", and then gaslight her about the fact that you are attacking her and calling her crazy.

I think you have some growing up you might need to do before participating in adult discussions about politics if you can't do it without trolling and bullying people.



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30 May 2017, 6:34 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
EzraS wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Ezra, I am not so much interested in you as a person as I am in your argument strategy which is to repeatedly accuse others of personal flaws. Step it up a notch.


The fact you hound/stalk me from time to time has been well documented by other WP users.

Now basically what you are saying is that if I point out the fact that certain types of behavior have been exhibited by the population at large, you take it as being directed at you personally. Which would explain why you act obsessed towards me, since you have indicated you think I'm always talking about you personally. The time you recently posted something along the lines of "Ezra, stop saying I don't have autism", out of the blue, is perfect example of this.

Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is or if you're just trolling. But I'm going to go with the latter and just simply troll you back.


How is she hounding you? She made a thread and you inserted yourself into it. It seems like you might be the one doing the hounding, and also bullying (saying people have been gossiping about her to you via PM is a way of bullying someone, with the intention of making them feel excluded and targeted by others.) All you have done in this thread is personally attack her for making the thread and being "crazy", and then gaslight her about the fact that you are attacking her and calling her crazy.

I think you have some growing up you might need to do before participating in adult discussions about politics if you can't do it without trolling and bullying people.



Thanks. That's my take too.



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30 May 2017, 7:22 pm

androbot01 wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
EzraS wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
Ezra, I am not so much interested in you as a person as I am in your argument strategy which is to repeatedly accuse others of personal flaws. Step it up a notch.


The fact you hound/stalk me from time to time has been well documented by other WP users.

Now basically what you are saying is that if I point out the fact that certain types of behavior have been exhibited by the population at large, you take it as being directed at you personally. Which would explain why you act obsessed towards me, since you have indicated you think I'm always talking about you personally. The time you recently posted something along the lines of "Ezra, stop saying I don't have autism", out of the blue, is perfect example of this.

Now I don't know what kind of psychological problem that is or if you're just trolling. But I'm going to go with the latter and just simply troll you back.


How is she hounding you? She made a thread and you inserted yourself into it. It seems like you might be the one doing the hounding, and also bullying (saying people have been gossiping about her to you via PM is a way of bullying someone, with the intention of making them feel excluded and targeted by others.) All you have done in this thread is personally attack her for making the thread and being "crazy", and then gaslight her about the fact that you are attacking her and calling her crazy.

I think you have some growing up you might need to do before participating in adult discussions about politics if you can't do it without trolling and bullying people.


Thanks. That's my take too.


It just struck me as very troll-y the way he was talking to you, like a schoolyard bully. I didn't see what about your thread brought it on, it was just a news article. I guess the Trump supporters here are just as irrational and troll-y here as they are elsewhere on the internet.



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31 May 2017, 12:25 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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If there's nothing to the Trump/Russia story, why didn't Trump come clean in the first place that his people were secretly talking to Putin's agent? His denials, despite clear evidence that Kushner, Flynn, and others had had these meetings with the Russians suggests there's something there.


And why won't Trump share his tax returns like every other president before? And why have so many of his people lied about dealing with the Russians (not just communications, but shady business deals with Russian oligarchs like Manafort has and has tried to conceal)?

If Trump and his cabal aren't guilty of anything, they sure seem to be doing everything they possibly can to act suspiciously and to look like they have something to hide. They are not in any way acting like people who have nothing to hide (by, you know, not hiding anything like tax returns and communications with Russians), and it's impossible not to be suspicious of that if you know anything about investigations and criminal behaviour.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it seems very odd to not even be able to admit that we might just possibly be looking at a duck like most Trump supporters seem unable to do. It just strikes me as psychologically motivated rather than motivated by logic and a desire to know the truth, the unquestioning support of Trump.


I thought his tax returns were revealed a while back.


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31 May 2017, 12:32 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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If there's nothing to the Trump/Russia story, why didn't Trump come clean in the first place that his people were secretly talking to Putin's agent? His denials, despite clear evidence that Kushner, Flynn, and others had had these meetings with the Russians suggests there's something there.


And why won't Trump share his tax returns like every other president before? And why have so many of his people lied about dealing with the Russians (not just communications, but shady business deals with Russian oligarchs like Manafort has and has tried to conceal)?

If Trump and his cabal aren't guilty of anything, they sure seem to be doing everything they possibly can to act suspiciously and to look like they have something to hide. They are not in any way acting like people who have nothing to hide (by, you know, not hiding anything like tax returns and communications with Russians), and it's impossible not to be suspicious of that if you know anything about investigations and criminal behaviour.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it seems very odd to not even be able to admit that we might just possibly be looking at a duck like most Trump supporters seem unable to do. It just strikes me as psychologically motivated rather than motivated by logic and a desire to know the truth, the unquestioning support of Trump.


I thought his tax returns were revealed a while back.


For only a couple inconsecutive years.


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31 May 2017, 1:52 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
How is she hounding you?


If you had been here since it started, you would have seen the history of it for yourself.
Other members have commented on it, so it's not just me who has said it. Other people, including a moderator have PMed me about it, so again it's not just me who has observed it.

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She made a thread and you inserted yourself into it.


No, I posted to an open forum. Just like you are doing, rather than "inserting" yourself.

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It seems like you might be the one doing the hounding, and also bullying (saying people have been gossiping about her to you via PM is a way of bullying someone, with the intention of making them feel excluded and targeted by others.) All you have done in this thread is personally attack her for making the thread and being "crazy", and then gaslight her about the fact that you are attacking her and calling her crazy.


No, she clearly started it. As one respected veteran member pointed out some time ago, I do not start these things, Androbot does. If she does not like the results, all she has to do is refrain from staring it in the first place.

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I think you have some growing up you might need to do before participating in adult discussions about politics if you can't do it without trolling and bullying people.


Your assessment is presumptuous and not based on my overall posting history or Androbot's. You are taking sides regarding a situation and people you know very little about. The overall opinion of most members who have read my posts over a long period of time who commented about my level of maturity, have consistently described me as being extremely mature for my age. Also this is not an adult discussion forum, it is not prejudicial regarding age. You shouldn't be either.

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It just struck me as very troll-y the way he was talking to you, like a schoolyard bully.


Documented history shows that Androbot01 has been called a bully far more often than I have.

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I didn't see what about your thread brought it on, it was just a news article. I guess the Trump supporters here are just as irrational and troll-y here as they are elsewhere on the internet.


Since you brought up the term troll-y, I'll bring up the term sockpuppet-y.

If you don't know what the characteristics of a sockpuppet are, it's when a brand new member suddenly shows up to act as someone's dedicated ally.