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06 Jan 2018, 3:56 pm

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And again. You assume that just because someone is a law enforcement officer they can't be biased. Like you wouldn't be saying someone was biased if Trump had appointed them. He and the team has ties to Clinton, you ignore them cause you hope it isn't true. I'm going by the evidence. There's no evidence that Russia hacked the election with Trump but there's some evidence that Mueller and his team is tied to Clinton.


Trump's son-in-law and his eldest idiot son meeting with the Russians after being told they had dirt of Clinton isn't collusion? Even Bannon in his new tell-all-book says it was a stupid move not to alert the FBI about this contact. By the way, Bannon has not once in his new book called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. That's the reason why Trump has just thrown him under the bus.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to trust the FBI much more than I'm going to trust a dirty businessman with ties to white nationalists like Trump, and his weirdo family.


And what does that prove? Nothing. The Trump team would have met with lots of different diplomats from different countries. There's evidence of a proposed collusion with Russia to help Israel but you're too scared to see that as as problem. Bannon is just butthurt. You trust the FBI? :lol:


The very act of meeting with the Russians for the purpose of interfering with our election was treasonous in itself.
And yes, I trust the FBI much more than I trust Trump.


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06 Jan 2018, 7:01 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
And again. You assume that just because someone is a law enforcement officer they can't be biased. Like you wouldn't be saying someone was biased if Trump had appointed them. He and the team has ties to Clinton, you ignore them cause you hope it isn't true. I'm going by the evidence. There's no evidence that Russia hacked the election with Trump but there's some evidence that Mueller and his team is tied to Clinton.


Trump's son-in-law and his eldest idiot son meeting with the Russians after being told they had dirt of Clinton isn't collusion? Even Bannon in his new tell-all-book says it was a stupid move not to alert the FBI about this contact. By the way, Bannon has not once in his new book called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. That's the reason why Trump has just thrown him under the bus.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to trust the FBI much more than I'm going to trust a dirty businessman with ties to white nationalists like Trump, and his weirdo family.


And what does that prove? Nothing. The Trump team would have met with lots of different diplomats from different countries. There's evidence of a proposed collusion with Russia to help Israel but you're too scared to see that as as problem. Bannon is just butthurt. You trust the FBI? :lol:


The very act of meeting with the Russians for the purpose of interfering with our election was treasonous in itself.
And yes, I trust the FBI much more than I trust Trump.


There's no evidence that it was to interfere in the election, so no, it isn't treasonous. You quoting Bannon now? :lol:
Only a fool would trust either.


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06 Jan 2018, 9:50 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
And again. You assume that just because someone is a law enforcement officer they can't be biased. Like you wouldn't be saying someone was biased if Trump had appointed them. He and the team has ties to Clinton, you ignore them cause you hope it isn't true. I'm going by the evidence. There's no evidence that Russia hacked the election with Trump but there's some evidence that Mueller and his team is tied to Clinton.


Trump's son-in-law and his eldest idiot son meeting with the Russians after being told they had dirt of Clinton isn't collusion? Even Bannon in his new tell-all-book says it was a stupid move not to alert the FBI about this contact. By the way, Bannon has not once in his new book called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. That's the reason why Trump has just thrown him under the bus.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to trust the FBI much more than I'm going to trust a dirty businessman with ties to white nationalists like Trump, and his weirdo family.


And what does that prove? Nothing. The Trump team would have met with lots of different diplomats from different countries. There's evidence of a proposed collusion with Russia to help Israel but you're too scared to see that as as problem. Bannon is just butthurt. You trust the FBI? :lol:


The very act of meeting with the Russians for the purpose of interfering with our election was treasonous in itself.
And yes, I trust the FBI much more than I trust Trump.


There's no evidence that it was to interfere in the election, so no, it isn't treasonous. You quoting Bannon now? :lol:
Only a fool would trust either.


There is plenty of evidence for it. Facebook and Twitter both revealed how Russian bots have been spewing pro-Trump BS on the internet. We know from Russia's past behavior with it's European neighbors that they have interfered with elections in the past.
Funny, I got the impression that you would have swallowed anything Bannon said not all that long ago.
One thing is for certain, I'm certainly not going to trust Trump.


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07 Jan 2018, 9:33 am

Russian bots haha. Jesus this whole thing is a joke. Which elections are they? Bit rich coming from the US, who do far worse than that.
I don't think I've ever mentioned Bannon on this site. You certainly have though.
No need to. There's plenty if respected people who know the Russian stuff is garbage.


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07 Jan 2018, 1:49 pm

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Russian bots haha. Jesus this whole thing is a joke. Which elections are they? Bit rich coming from the US, who do far worse than that.
I don't think I've ever mentioned Bannon on this site. You certainly have though.
No need to. There's plenty if respected people who know the Russian stuff is garbage.


You really have the blinders on.
And what respected people?


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07 Jan 2018, 2:30 pm

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Russian bots haha. Jesus this whole thing is a joke. Which elections are they? Bit rich coming from the US, who do far worse than that.
I don't think I've ever mentioned Bannon on this site. You certainly have though.
No need to. There's plenty if respected people who know the Russian stuff is garbage.


You really have the blinders on.
And what respected people?


Pot kettle...
Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Glenn Greenwald. Sensible people have this tripe too many times before. All the lies that have come with wars etc via the intelligence agencies.


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07 Jan 2018, 2:45 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Russian bots haha. Jesus this whole thing is a joke. Which elections are they? Bit rich coming from the US, who do far worse than that.
I don't think I've ever mentioned Bannon on this site. You certainly have though.
No need to. There's plenty if respected people who know the Russian stuff is garbage.


You really have the blinders on.
And what respected people?


Pot kettle...
Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Glenn Greenwald. Sensible people have this tripe too many times before. All the lies that have come with wars etc via the intelligence agencies.


Have any of them seen the evidence the feds have?


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07 Jan 2018, 6:21 pm

Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


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07 Jan 2018, 7:31 pm

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Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


I know of few prosecutors or investigators who'd reveal their case to the public before they were ready to go to court.
By the way, naming Noam Chomsky as part of the Trump fan club is disingenuous, as he thinks Trump is a dangerous buffoon who could destroy American democracy. Greenwald, on the other hand, comes off as sounding too much like a conservative partisan to me to be taken seriously.


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07 Jan 2018, 7:53 pm

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Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


I know of few prosecutors or investigators who'd reveal their case to the public before they were ready to go to court.
By the way, naming Noam Chomsky as part of the Trump fan club is disingenuous, as he thinks Trump is a dangerous buffoon who could destroy American democracy. Greenwald, on the other hand, comes off as sounding too much like a conservative partisan to me to be taken seriously.


There is no evidence. It's purely political because the election result hasn't been accepted. I never said he or any of them were fans of Trump. They just have credibility and aren't biased enough to be illogical. Chomsky said nothing of the sort regarding "American democracy". Greenwald is a man of the truth and has risked his life and career to get the truth out. Calling him a "conservative partisan" is beyond parody. He's a gay guy who works for the Guardian.


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07 Jan 2018, 8:02 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


I know of few prosecutors or investigators who'd reveal their case to the public before they were ready to go to court.
By the way, naming Noam Chomsky as part of the Trump fan club is disingenuous, as he thinks Trump is a dangerous buffoon who could destroy American democracy. Greenwald, on the other hand, comes off as sounding too much like a conservative partisan to me to be taken seriously.


There is no evidence. It's purely political because the election result hasn't been accepted. I never said he or any of them were fans of Trump. They just have credibility and aren't biased enough to be illogical. Chomsky said nothing of the sort regarding "American democracy". Greenwald is a man of the truth and has risked his life and career to get the truth out. Calling him a "conservative partisan" is beyond parody. He's a gay guy who works for the Guardian.


Say what you will, but you don't know what you think you know, especially about Chomsky.
And by the way, all three of those guys you mentioned are JEWS!! !! Just wanted you to know that.


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08 Jan 2018, 12:24 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


I know of few prosecutors or investigators who'd reveal their case to the public before they were ready to go to court.
By the way, naming Noam Chomsky as part of the Trump fan club is disingenuous, as he thinks Trump is a dangerous buffoon who could destroy American democracy. Greenwald, on the other hand, comes off as sounding too much like a conservative partisan to me to be taken seriously.


There is no evidence. It's purely political because the election result hasn't been accepted. I never said he or any of them were fans of Trump. They just have credibility and aren't biased enough to be illogical. Chomsky said nothing of the sort regarding "American democracy". Greenwald is a man of the truth and has risked his life and career to get the truth out. Calling him a "conservative partisan" is beyond parody. He's a gay guy who works for the Guardian.


Say what you will, but you don't know what you think you know, especially about Chomsky.
And by the way, all three of those guys you mentioned are JEWS!! ! ! Just wanted you to know that.


I'm afraid I do. I've followed Chomsky for years. He said nothing of the sort which you mentioned. The main reason he's gone after Trump is because of his stance on climate change. He also said that Ted cruz was more dangerous than Trump. I'm. Sorry the facts, as usual don't fit the narrative you want.
I hadn't even thought about that, as it doesn't matter to me anyway. Although, you are still wrong. John Pilger isn't Jewish. Nice try though.


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08 Jan 2018, 2:26 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well no, because there isn't any evidence. "Trust us, but we can't show you because.." or "we're confident" just isn't good enough. Luckily more and more have started to learn that, especially after Iraq.


I know of few prosecutors or investigators who'd reveal their case to the public before they were ready to go to court.
By the way, naming Noam Chomsky as part of the Trump fan club is disingenuous, as he thinks Trump is a dangerous buffoon who could destroy American democracy. Greenwald, on the other hand, comes off as sounding too much like a conservative partisan to me to be taken seriously.


There is no evidence. It's purely political because the election result hasn't been accepted. I never said he or any of them were fans of Trump. They just have credibility and aren't biased enough to be illogical. Chomsky said nothing of the sort regarding "American democracy". Greenwald is a man of the truth and has risked his life and career to get the truth out. Calling him a "conservative partisan" is beyond parody. He's a gay guy who works for the Guardian.


Say what you will, but you don't know what you think you know, especially about Chomsky.
And by the way, all three of those guys you mentioned are JEWS!! ! ! Just wanted you to know that.


I'm afraid I do. I've followed Chomsky for years. He said nothing of the sort which you mentioned. The main reason he's gone after Trump is because of his stance on climate change. He also said that Ted cruz was more dangerous than Trump. I'm. Sorry the facts, as usual don't fit the narrative you want.
I hadn't even thought about that, as it doesn't matter to me anyway. Although, you are still wrong. John Pilger isn't Jewish. Nice try though.


Well, he has a Jewish sounding name. But the other two ARE!! !! ! BWAHAHAHAHA!! !! !!
And yes, he has a low opinion of Trump and his autocratic ways. Why would any sensible person who loves free government like Chomsky defend a wannabe strong man like Trump?


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08 Jan 2018, 2:40 pm

Are you feeling ok?
You really have no idea about Chomsky. He was a big critic of Bill Clinton, Bush and Obama. He doesn't like what any US leader does. And again, he dismissed the "Russian hacking" tripe.


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08 Jan 2018, 5:19 pm

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Are you feeling ok?
You really have no idea about Chomsky. He was a big critic of Bill Clinton, Bush and Obama. He doesn't like what any US leader does. And again, he dismissed the "Russian hacking" tripe.


I know Chomsky didn't like any past President. That said, he dislikes Trump the most. I hardly see him supporting Trump in muzzling the media like he wants to.


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