The Republicans used 9/11 to trick Democrats in NC

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18 Sep 2019, 3:52 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Trump is Israel's puppet . They were spying on the US again and Trump denied it. All he has done is help Israel.


And what is your evidence?


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18 Sep 2019, 4:31 pm

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JohnPowell wrote:
Trump is Israel's puppet . They were spying on the US again and Trump denied it. All he has done is help Israel.


And what is your evidence?


Just go through my post history. I'm not going to keep repeating myself. And duh, all he has done is help Israel. Moved the Embassy, sanctions on Iran and pulled out of the deal (Netanyahu boasted about getting Trump to do it). Trump Heights. The deal of the century.


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18 Sep 2019, 6:25 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Trump is Israel's puppet . They were spying on the US again and Trump denied it. All he has done is help Israel.


Trump is chummy with Israel for three obvious reasons:

Trump's son-in-law, despite being buddy-buddy with the Saudis, is also very Pro-Israel.
Trump is sucking up to his evangelical supporters who buy into Revelations, and so think God will bless them for being Pro Israel when the Apocalypse comes.
Trump, ever the fanboy of strongmen, is absolutely dedicated to his bromance with Israeli strongman Netenyahu.

Saying all that, Trump is obviously enthralled by populist strongmen like Erdogan and Kim, and is happy to be Putin's b*tch. So my last post still stands.


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19 Sep 2019, 12:19 am

Pure drivel.


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19 Sep 2019, 12:21 am

Netanyahu sleeps in Jared's bed.


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19 Sep 2019, 12:54 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Pure drivel.


No, that's established fact by legitimate sources. Do you really think Trump isn't playing up to fundy and holy roller voters for their support by being Israel's best friend?


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19 Sep 2019, 1:23 am

It's not just a fundi thing. Antisemitism has been a thing with liberals for a long time. The term antisemitie was probably used way before terms like islamaphobe and homophobe came along.



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It's not just a fundi thing. Antisemitism has been a thing with liberals for a long time. The term antisemitie was probably used way before terms like islamaphobe and homophobe came along.


I'm not talking about Antisemitism, but about certain Christian doctrine viewing the book of Revelation as being about things that are yet to be, including ideas about Christ returning to raise the Temple of Jerusalem in three days (no, he was talking about his own physical resurrection two thousand years ago), and thus they have to get on his good side when the war of Armageddon happens.
What some on the left have today are Anti-Israel feelings, which is not the same as Antisemitism. That is, hatred of Jews just for being Jews, which the far right like the Nazis and their predecessors in Europe had embraced, as well as the Alt Right and Neo-Nazis of today.


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19 Sep 2019, 1:50 am

Every US President is Israel's 'best friend'. They have to swear an oath to them.

If it was about 'strongman' Trump would love China and Iran. He doesn't so bang goes your Alex Jones style conspiracy kooky theory.


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19 Sep 2019, 2:00 am

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Every US President is Israel's 'best friend'. They have to swear an oath to them.

If it was about 'strongman' Trump would love China and Iran. He doesn't so bang goes your Alex Jones style conspiracy kooky theory.


Oh, he's chummy with the Chinese President. And don't forget all the other strongmen like Kim, Erdogan, Duerte, and his boss, Putin - Trump loves them all, even at the expense of our legitimate allies.
By the way, Trump told Alex Jones that he was his number one fan.


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19 Sep 2019, 2:30 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
It's not just a fundi thing. Antisemitism has been a thing with liberals for a long time. The term antisemitie was probably used way before terms like islamaphobe and homophobe came along.


I'm not talking about Antisemitism, but about certain Christian doctrine viewing the book of Revelation as being about things that are yet to be, including ideas about Christ returning to raise the Temple of Jerusalem in three days (no, he was talking about his own physical resurrection two thousand years ago), and thus they have to get on his good side when the war of Armageddon happens.
What some on the left have today are Anti-Israel feelings, which is not the same as Antisemitism. That is, hatred of Jews just for being Jews, which the far right like the Nazis and their predecessors in Europe had embraced, as well as the Alt Right and Neo-Nazis of today.


I know what you were talking about and that you hold a preterist view. But I believe being pro-Jew pro-Israel is or was a big thing with liberals. I suppose maybe they put it aside of late to be more pro-Islam.

I also know there many evengelicals who are not holy roller prosperity types.



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19 Sep 2019, 2:37 am

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and his boss, Putin - Trump loves them all, .


:lol:



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19 Sep 2019, 5:03 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
It's not just a fundi thing. Antisemitism has been a thing with liberals for a long time. The term antisemitie was probably used way before terms like islamaphobe and homophobe came along.


I'm not talking about Antisemitism, but about certain Christian doctrine viewing the book of Revelation as being about things that are yet to be, including ideas about Christ returning to raise the Temple of Jerusalem in three days (no, he was talking about his own physical resurrection two thousand years ago), and thus they have to get on his good side when the war of Armageddon happens.
What some on the left have today are Anti-Israel feelings, which is not the same as Antisemitism. That is, hatred of Jews just for being Jews, which the far right like the Nazis and their predecessors in Europe had embraced, as well as the Alt Right and Neo-Nazis of today.


I know what you were talking about and that you hold a preterist view. But I believe being pro-Jew pro-Israel is or was a big thing with liberals. I suppose maybe they put it aside of late to be more pro-Islam.

I also know there many evengelicals who are not holy roller prosperity types.


And there are still Pro-Israel, Pro-Jewish liberals. While there are liberals who are very sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, most liberals are concerned about Muslim Americans who are facing hate crimes and discrimination.
No, not all evangelicals are those things. But I happen to disagree with their theology just the same, and especially I disagree with their equation of conservative secular politics with theology.


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19 Sep 2019, 5:56 am

I have been pro-Israel from my teens. But it doesn't give Israel a free pass to treat it's minorities with disrespect.



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19 Sep 2019, 6:45 am

It's interesting how Trump, his supporters and conservatives are pro-Israel and also Nazis.



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19 Sep 2019, 6:52 am

beneficii wrote:
In North Carolina yesterday, there was a bill that the Democratic governor of North Carolina had vetoed. The Republicans, who were the majority, told the Democrats that since it was the anniversary of 9/11, they weren't going to vote and were going to a vigil instead. So the Democrats went to the vigil. The Republicans snuck back to the legislature and held the vote without the Democrats present, and were able to achieve the 2/3 majority of those present vote to override the governor's veto.


One real problem with this kind of trick that it is likely to only work once.

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