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Does Trump have absolute right he says?
Poll ended at 19 Oct 2019, 1:02 am
Yes 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
No 89%  89%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 18

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08 Oct 2019, 8:27 pm

It seems to me that he just sits around and tweets things when someone offends him even slightly. That's not the mark of a strong leader.

He engages in similar name-calling "rank-outs" as people do in professional wrestling.



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08 Oct 2019, 8:29 pm

a stopped clock, technically speaking, is "right" more often than dear leader is.



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08 Oct 2019, 8:33 pm

Lets not forget that he also has an orange face, silly hair and small hands :x



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08 Oct 2019, 11:14 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
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Trump cut taxes for people who don't need it.

Who doesn't need tax cuts?


The super rich. The middle class and the poor for the most part got squat.


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09 Oct 2019, 1:25 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
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Trump cut taxes for people who don't need it.

Who doesn't need tax cuts?


The wealthiest 5%



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09 Oct 2019, 2:53 am

Antrax wrote:
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Way to say hello to a buddy, Sly!

You are saying hyperbole. You like Trump...and that's all there is to it.

Nothing will convince you otherwise.

Suppose Trump was the one who wanted to take away your guns?


You’re saying hyperbole cause you hate trump so much.

But he’s not that’s democrats. Trump saved my rights from democrats.
Still I vote for some democrats cause I’m not party bias.

Democrats unite and stuck together blindly which is bad for a republic. Notice democrat politician never go against each other in congress they always vote party line, cause if they don’t the party will end them. Republicans often vote against the party line.
We need like 20 parties of equal size it’s time to tear down the democrat and Republican Party and let independent thought happen again.

And FYI I’m responding to you cause I don’t even read the other leftists posts anymore.


Pretty sure Democrats and Republicans vote against party line about the same amount nowadays, which is to say not very much.

Party over country is definitely bad for the country, but good for the parties, which is what both parties figured out. How to get out of this mess?


Rhino are republicans who vote with democrats, there’s no democrat equivalent because democrats don’t dare break rank. Gun control always has all democrats for, most republicans against but 1/4 of republicans for it. Can’t think of any democrats no come out against gun control. The DNC has driven the fear into all democrats, “vote as we say or we’ll make sure you don’t get re-elected.”
Republican Party doesn’t have such a mentality, some Republican voters do, the the party and politicians don’t. It’s rare to see republicans stand together all any issue non less all issues.

But that goes for any issue. The left is united, the right is divided. Pro gun control people are united they support even laws they don’t like. The pro gun people will be like “ I don’t own that gun so yeah ok ban whatever you want just don’t take my (insert gun)”

The left shows up for rally’s, protists, town halls, the right doesn’t they just assume others will and say their time is more important. The left is united in union and dedicated. They also have the Media on their side.
But the democrats shouldn’t be united. They should fight with each other, have differing opinions. It’s odd that a Democrat from California has the same opinions as a Democrat from Texas. Thy shouldn’t agree on everything so it cause the party demands they do. And they keep their promise, the few who did go against them got ousted from office. You don’t dare cross the Democrat party. That alone is why I’ll neber truelu like or trust any Democrat running. They never represent me, since the party line doesn’t represent me. More like I can find a pro welfare republican, then a pro gun democrat willing to go against the party.


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09 Oct 2019, 3:03 am

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There are people who can stay calm and discuss differing points of view. Kortie is certainly one of them. Like Kortie, it bothers me to see people tarred with a broad brush.

There are differing points of view that have validity. If we keep fighting each other, we destroy ourselves and leave China to pick up the pieces.

As Antrax says, what are we going to do about it?

He insulted and slandered me. So clearly he can’t. He’s not any different then the other extremist leftist here I guess. I’ve noticed he’s been slipping deeper into it.

I believe our founders said a revolution every now and then is good for a nation.
They probably didn’t think we’d go two hundred years without another, they wouldn’t like our nation today the government has way overreached it’s boundaries. They’d see the president as a defacto king no doubt. We know the office has illegally expanded its powers over last hundred years and we just accept it. The other two branches have done nothing to keep it in check and restore balance. Congress and Supreme Court all almost irrelevant and probably just be a show government in 50-100 years, much likes nazi Germany’s parliament. The president actively makes laws, and actively redefines other laws. Both are the other two branches job and president shouldn’t be able to do. As is I’d say the present is 80% power and other two 10% each. It suppose to be 1/3 each.
But whatever. You have executive offices doing things they say they can’t legally do and we all don’t care. “ yeah we know it’s illegal, but who’s going to stop us” no one apparently. Why even have a congress. And why can congress increase their own pay? One of the other branches should decid that. Of course they increase they pay. Wish my work would let me give myself raises, I should make 200,000 a year too.


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09 Oct 2019, 3:06 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump didn't do anything of the kind. He didn't save anybody's "rights."

You know I'm not a Democrat, right?

Trump stopped the social security gun ban or as the left calls it “trump made it so mentally ill can buy guns”

Trump eliminated the ACA penalty.
Trump cut taxes!
Trump is enforcing border laws.
Trump implemented the (not YMCA) USMCA
Trump is implementing HHS rules to allow Americans to buy Canadian drugs
Trump in his heart thinks he is a man of the working people by eliminating free trade deals, and creating steel, aluminum, and Chinese tariffs.
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Democrats would not of done any of that.


I and a lot of the people here wouldn’t even have rights and be considered second class citizens if Hillary had won. Probably will when the next Democrat wins, so I hope trump wins again I’d like a few more years of being human legally at least. Women already don’t consider me human, under democrats neither will the government.


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09 Oct 2019, 3:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It seems to me that he just sits around and tweets things when someone offends him even slightly. That's not the mark of a strong leader.

He engages in similar name-calling "rank-outs" as people do in professional wrestling.

Obama threw tantrums when he didn’t get what he wanted and attacked people anyway he could. We might as well elected a 6 year old.

“ whah, I couldn’t get simi auto guns banned so I’m gong attack disabled people and ban ww2 rifles from reimportation that the USA government owns. Whah” he ordered all beneath him to find any way to to attack gun owners make them pay for it giving him their toys. Such a childish behavior. Not what I’d call presidential or adult behavior.
He also promised if stuff went bad he’d swoop in and take back control, um no you won’t. You had your two terms you can’t just seize back the president position cause you don’t like how things are going.
Some congressmen actually tried to make a law so Obama could just keep running, no ones trying to do that for trump. Obama was the lefts king and if nit for that pesky laws they’d kept running him and running him. Everything you feel about trump I felt about Obama and I had to deal with him for 8 years, trump is likely the last republican president this nation will ever have. Then we’ll be like California where you can vote for a Democrat or another clone Democrat. They don’t even get a option to vote for republican with their new law. So it’ll be vote for cat poop or dog poop.what a choice.


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09 Oct 2019, 3:20 am

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Even if his ideas are great-----even if the results are great......the problem would lie with the PERSON who purportedly leads us.

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Use to be judge a person by their actions. So if his actions are great then he’s great.
I don’t care if a president is a total a**hole if he does good things. Mean a lot of aspies come off as a**holes but most are good people.
Lot of doctors are too, but they save lives.

I’m not going be like look I know you can save my life but you’re so cold and harsh, so I’d rather die.

I’m going try to bail this thread. Guess I come here to keep distracted from my crap life and sadness but it’s not helping wish there was a centrist aspie forum.


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09 Oct 2019, 6:24 am

I’m a Centrist.



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09 Oct 2019, 6:55 am

Earlier this morning I read on CNN that Pat Robertson said that Trump has lost heavans mandate over deserting the Kurds.This is bad news for Trump because if people like Robertson speak out against him he may loose the evangelical vote,and the evangelical vote is a lot of what got him elected in 2016.I don't see Trump winning in 2020 without the support of the religious right.


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09 Oct 2019, 7:03 am

i have the nasty feeling the big fool will win again with another manufactured majority, due to the usual complex of GOP and foreign skullduggery.



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09 Oct 2019, 8:58 am

I'm not really so sure Trump will win.

There's a distinct possibility that he won't----based, ironically, on the Electoral College, which got him into the Presidency despite him losing the popular vote.

If Trump loses all the states which usually vote Democratic (e.g., Michigan, Wisconsin), which he won in 2016 by much less than 1%, he would probably lose the election. If he loses Florida (which he won by about 1% in 2016), he would definitely lose the election. If there's a higher than normal turnout by Democrats, that would favor the Democrats, obviously.



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09 Oct 2019, 9:05 am

^^^man, KK, i hope to christ you are right. i don't know how much more self-inflicted abuse this ol' country can take.



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09 Oct 2019, 9:16 am

There has to be a better turnout from those who don't like Trump-----especially in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida.

Trump won Michigan by 10,000 votes, by the way. That can easily be reversed.