Anti-vaxers: "We will find you"

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If everyone is vaccinated, it seems obvious that the hospitalized cases will also be vaccinated. But are the hospitals being overwhelmed or is it manageable? Imagine what it would look like now without vaccines?

I think it was a mistake to encourage those who have been vaccinated to drop the other precautions. The virus is determined to get past our defenses; that is what viruses do. We have to stay vigilant on all fronts. Places went from zero to 60 socially, and that was too much.

Where I live, despite prevalence of the delta variant, vaccination rates are high and our numbers are the best in the US. Vulnerable populations are getting boosters and all of us are encouraged to keep masks on and practice social distancing.

Vaccines weren’t the magic tool everyone hoped, but they remain a highly successful tool. To say they never did anything is dead wrong.

All I know is, my family and I are vaccinated, and we're doing just fine. My state of Washington has a high vaccination rate, and is doing significantly better than our next door neighbor, Idaho, where vaccination rates are much lower, as is mask wearing.

Idaho has been in pretty dire straights. A friend who lives there is extremely frustrated.

Sorry but as a foreigner this is my only reference to Idaho

^^^ Idaho is known for growing potatoes

(Fun song, does mention potatoes, but I don’t get the lyrics otherwise)

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I don't want to paint all of Idaho with the same brush, as many citizens of that state had resisted the Aryan Nations years before. That said, as of late too many people have been resisting science in regard to Covid, even having public burning of masks.

Ah of course! the Idaho potatoes (cue Mr Potato head from Toy Story).

In general rural areas tend to be isolated so the local people are susceptible to "travelling salesmen" flogging their conspiracies.

Anyone?? How so?

If they're unvaccinated too, then they're taking the same risk as I am. If they are vaccinated, there's no risk of them catching COVID from me, the vaccine will protect them. Unless it doesn't? In that case, what good is it? More importantly, if the vaccinated can still catch and pass on COVID, then what's to stop you from catching it and, in turn, passing it on to anyone you come in contact with, even if they're also vaccinated?

"Get the vaccine, because you're putting others at risk, even if they're vaccinated."
Well, then, I'd still be putting them at risk if I am vaccinated, since I could still catch and pass on COVID.

I am damned tired of arguing with people who are both ignorant of medical science and lacking in common sense.

If they die of covid, then so be it.  They are not my responsibility, and I will not attend any more of their funerals.

They have been warned repeatedly, and I am now just waiting for the inevitable "I told you so" moments.

I like calling up anti-vax churches with low-ball offers on their property. When they sound butthurt I ask why they're worried about worldly things when pretty soon they'll all be able to meet-up right in front of their creator.

Not sure if I'm among them, but what I asked was an honest question. I won't debate you, but please explain what you stated. I take a risk, others take a risk. The vaccinated shouldn't be at risk. There does seem to be a contradiction, and it may be caused by my ignorance, so please clarify your argument.

But simply out of pure curiosity, how many people do you know who have died of COVID since the vaccination became widespread, for choosing not to vaccinate?

Only in the sense that covid-19 is a serious medical concern so preventing the spread of it via masks is important.

Children can breathe just fine wearing masks. I’ve seen countless children wearing masks and all of them have been breathing just fine. If basic medical masks caused asphyxiation, Doctors, Nurses, and Dentists etc would be passing out minutes into their shifts over the last ~Century.

Interesting. You chastised me for this very viewpoint a few days ago. You blamed the crackpots for their disinformation, and I said everyone is culpable for their ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills.

It would be nice if you could be a little more consistent.

More people I know have died.  One woman lost 2 brothers and a sister in less than a week.  Another woman lost her only brother, and now she is left alone to care for her ailing parents.

I had warned them all.

Now I am angry as Hell, and I am not going to put up with it anymore.  There have been too many deaths and too many funerals -- all because anti-vaxxers are effing stupid -- and I am no longer going to anyone's funeral if they died of covid.