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05 Nov 2021, 2:38 am

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IMHO black GOPers are just as bad for the working class [and by extension, many POCers] as white GOPers. clarence thomas and his regressive social views are the chief example.


So, are you are saying all conservative blacks are traitors to their race?
If so, isn't that enormously politically incorrect? 8O



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05 Nov 2021, 2:45 am

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IMHO black GOPers are just as bad for the working class [and by extension, many POCers] as white GOPers. clarence thomas and his regressive social views are the chief example.


So, are you are saying all conservative blacks are traitors to their race?
If so, isn't that enormously politically incorrect? 8O

i am saying that like the rest of the GOP, they have been generally opposed to all the progress this country made since its early years, progress that helped people like me. that is why i don't like GOPers in general.



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05 Nov 2021, 2:52 am

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And CRT creeping into our schools? Nothing like that had ever been taught to my daughter. And yes, she is a public high school student.

I get the impression you wouldn't recognise CRT even if the textbook was titled "CRT", this title covered the whole front cover, and with a blurb extolling the "virtues" of CRT...

Here's a discussion about some of what is being taught in schools.



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05 Nov 2021, 3:38 am

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And CRT creeping into our schools? Nothing like that had ever been taught to my daughter. And yes, she is a public high school student.

I get the impression you wouldn't recognise CRT even if the textbook was titled "CRT", this title covered the whole front cover, and with a blurb extolling the "virtues" of CRT...

Here's a discussion about some of what is being taught in schools.


"People are saying there isn't a left bias in skools?" 8O :lmao:

Hitler would be proud of the skool indoctrination system. :mrgreen:



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05 Nov 2021, 4:00 am

the worst part of all this kerfuffle is that the much more important issue of socioeconomic class is being obscured by this make-believe controversy over CRT. the upper class is eating the middle class' lunch, and in the only kind of trickle down that is real, the middle class is in turn [via hostile GOPQ policies in government] trickling hell down on the working class. i am reminded of the old story about how the CEO walked into the employee breakroom, sees a union organizer and a worker at a table with a plate of cookies on it. he swoops down onto the table and snarfs up all but one of the cookies, then whispers to the worker, "psst... watch out for that union organizer... he wants a piece of your cookie!"



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05 Nov 2021, 4:24 am

Pepe wrote:
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All CRT is, is a legal theory taught in law schools, that laws of the past had been racially conscious in stacking the deck against non-whites. It's never been taught in public schools to kids. What this is really about is how conservative whites don't want their children taught that white people had ever behaved badly toward non-white Americans.


You not only don't know what you're talking about, you're actively spreading misinformation; stop. You don't know what CRT is, you don't know where it is and is not being taught, and you really don't know what's in the minds of those opposing teaching racial essentialism to kids. This is literally just the cable news talking points, which happen to be the same as those of the Democratic party, which is honestly not unexpected coming from you, but it's still wrong and you should at least try to form your own opinion on something for once.


Even if any of what you're saying is true, it doesn't negate the fact that CRT is just a bogeyman used by the right to terrify their constituents into action, just as mixed race marriage, gay marriage, and Trans bathroom use had been used in the past. These are the exact same people who want BS taught in schools like that the Civil War had been fought over states rights, that slavery was a mutually beneficial relationship, and who want to completely ignore white terrorism and segregation, all so that their children won't learn something contradictory to what their parents told them about race and history. And yes, I do know what's in the heads of those parents, as people in such red states have been pushing that ahistorical crap for years now.


Mr Binary man had made us another visit. :mrgreen:

Why do you consistently overlook how leftist extremists pervert the theory for their own personal agenda?
"Curious. " 8)


What personal agenda might that be?
Is the right so pure as the driven snow as to not pervert anything?


I thought it obvious.
The extreme left wants all Caucasians to embrace collective guilt.
Have you forgotten the "Take the knee" campaign?
They want all whites to self-flagellate.

It is the same nonsense I had to contend with as a child.
I had to inherit the sins of my German "forefathers".
I no longer accept such anti-intellectual drivel. 8)


I never said the right could do no good, or that the left could do no evil. In this case though, with some exceptions that can actually be found in high end private schools, anti-white bigotry would be hard to get away with in most public schools. As I already stated, I have a teenage daughter in high school, and she's never been exposed to such miseducation. What overly conservative parents call CRT is just a matter of them believing any history showing any whites in a bad light is an attack on all whites, including their children. My best friend (outside my wife) had grown up in a small eastern Washington town, where he tells me, the people he had grown up among - including his parents - had a kneejerk reaction to any reference to whites behaving in a racist manner as being automatically anti-white. He admitted he had been instilled with such ideas, which he only outgrew when he left his small town behind and moved to the Spokane area.
As a proud American of German extraction, it genuinely pisses me off that anyone should have made you feel guilty for being a Deutscher. I remember reading an autobiographical piece on Henry Miller, an American author of German ancestry, where the biographer said, "Germans make the best Americans, but the worst Germans." Or as my paternal grandfather, himself a German American, had said, "There's no bastard like a German bastard." Or in other words, while the Germans in the past had done terrible things in their time, no one has the right to paint the rest of us who share their DNA with the same brush.


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05 Nov 2021, 4:31 am

Brictoria wrote:
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And CRT creeping into our schools? Nothing like that had ever been taught to my daughter. And yes, she is a public high school student.

I get the impression you wouldn't recognise CRT even if the textbook was titled "CRT", this title covered the whole front cover, and with a blurb extolling the "virtues" of CRT...

Here's a discussion about some of what is being taught in schools.


My daughter was never taught anything like that, and I have to think that most other kids aren't either.


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05 Nov 2021, 4:46 am

the german part of me wants peace.



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05 Nov 2021, 8:16 am

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the german part of me wants peace.


8)


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05 Nov 2021, 8:54 am

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the german part of me wants peace.


8)

and for a decent human being in power to fix our rotten health care delivery and financing non-system.



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05 Nov 2021, 3:34 pm

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the german part of me wants peace.


8)

and for a decent human being in power to fix our rotten health care delivery and financing non-system.


8) 8)


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