Jussie Smollett found guilty of fake hate crime.

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12 Mar 2022, 7:15 pm

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On one hand...his family. And some dude who looks like Danny Glover who has no connection to the case.




Is he slandering the judge? :scratch:
I wouldn't try that. 8O



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12 Mar 2022, 7:47 pm

Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?



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13 Mar 2022, 1:30 am

I would also be interested to see what sentence Sherri Pappini will get for doing literally the same thing as Jussie Smollet
She appears to only have spent a few days in jail before being released and hasn't been fined a cent
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri-pap ... ased-jail/

Sherri Pappini

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Jussie Smolett

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Anyone notice the difference?



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13 Mar 2022, 1:52 am

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I would also be interested to see what sentence Sherri Pappini will get for doing literally the same thing as Jussie Smollet
She appears to only have spent a few days in jail before being released and hasn't been fined a cent
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri-pap ... ased-jail/

Sherri Pappini


Jussie Smolett


Anyone notice the difference?


Give it a rest, mate.
If you have to, create your own thread.



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13 Mar 2022, 2:55 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I would also be interested to see what sentence Sherri Pappini will get for doing literally the same thing as Jussie Smollet
She appears to only have spent a few days in jail before being released and hasn't been fined a cent
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherri-pap ... ased-jail/

Sherri Pappini


Jussie Smolett


Anyone notice the difference?



Give it a rest, mate.
If you have to, create your own thread.


Good idea!



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13 Mar 2022, 2:58 am

Why has this case gotten so much public attention though. People are treating it equivalent to a homicide case, media and public wise. Unless it's bigger than I think?



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13 Mar 2022, 3:20 am

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Why has this case gotten so much public attention though. People are treating it equivalent to a homicide case, media and public wise. Unless it's bigger than I think?


Right wingers wanting to drag the left through the mud using Smollet as a stick. Grabbing anything they can lay their hands on.



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13 Mar 2022, 3:27 am

cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Why has this case gotten so much public attention though. People are treating it equivalent to a homicide case, media and public wise. Unless it's bigger than I think?


Right wingers wanting to drag the left through the mud using Smollet as a stick. Grabbing anything they can lay their hands on.


Karma.
The left does this sort of thing many more times than the right.
I'm actually surprised the left-wing media is allowing it.

Well, not really.
The left-wing media is not nearly as biased, now that the Orange Man is no longer in government. :mrgreen:



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13 Mar 2022, 3:29 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Why has this case gotten so much public attention though. People are treating it equivalent to a homicide case, media and public wise. Unless it's bigger than I think?


Right wingers wanting to drag the left through the mud using Smollet as a stick. Grabbing anything they can lay their hands on.


Karma.
The left does this sort of thing many more times than the right.
I'm actually surprised the left-wing media is allowing it.

Well, not really.
The left-wing media is not nearly as biased, now that the Orange Man is no longer in government. :mrgreen:


Smollet dug his own grave and now has to lie in it. Yes some left wingers did jump to his aid initially (like some did with Bill Cosby) and they will likely just keep quiet now.



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13 Mar 2022, 11:04 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?



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14 Mar 2022, 3:58 am

ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


Judge Jamie Linn has a very shady past
https://abc7chicago.com/judge-james-lin ... /11644137/

His conduct has been questioned
n 2011, he attracted a lot of controversy after reversing a jury’s verdict in the sexual assault case of three sisters by a man named Joseph Fultz and convicting him of a far less serious sex charge.
According to a report by Injustice Watch, Fultz was given only 18 years in jail, “a far cry from the mandatory life sentence he faced if the jury’s decision had stood.” The report noted, “For the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, the about-face marked the final straw following a series of what prosecutors viewed as unfavorable decisions by Linn on sex cases, according to internal office emails and interviews with several former prosecutors.”
https://meaww.com/james-linn-jussie-smo ... cago-judge

One of the victims in the case said Linn has not overseen a sex case since November 2013. Also recently, one of the victims of the 2011 case said of the judge that he “didn’t really think about the emotional damages that (Fultz) left on me or my sisters or the full nature of how sick he was.” She added, “And it’s not because of the case. It’s because most of the time people don’t care about people that look like me or that have my kind of background. That’s why so many people take (the) law into their own hands.”




and appears to have an axe to grind with Smollet's defense team
https://www.newsweek.com/jussie-smollet ... ur-1655612



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14 Mar 2022, 4:28 am

ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


The fishy part is the Smollett case being dismissed in the first place.
I suspect it was a corruption of the system.



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14 Mar 2022, 4:31 am

cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


Judge Jamie Linn has a very shady past
https://abc7chicago.com/judge-james-lin ... /11644137/

His conduct has been questioned
n 2011, he attracted a lot of controversy after reversing a jury’s verdict in the sexual assault case of three sisters by a man named Joseph Fultz and convicting him of a far less serious sex charge.
According to a report by Injustice Watch, Fultz was given only 18 years in jail, “a far cry from the mandatory life sentence he faced if the jury’s decision had stood.” The report noted, “For the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, the about-face marked the final straw following a series of what prosecutors viewed as unfavorable decisions by Linn on sex cases, according to internal office emails and interviews with several former prosecutors.”
https://meaww.com/james-linn-jussie-smo ... cago-judge

One of the victims in the case said Linn has not overseen a sex case since November 2013. Also recently, one of the victims of the 2011 case said of the judge that he “didn’t really think about the emotional damages that (Fultz) left on me or my sisters or the full nature of how sick he was.” She added, “And it’s not because of the case. It’s because most of the time people don’t care about people that look like me or that have my kind of background. That’s why so many people take (the) law into their own hands.”


and appears to have an axe to grind with Smollet's defense team
https://www.newsweek.com/jussie-smollet ... ur-1655612


You questioned the integrity of the judge involved in the Rittenhouse case, also.
You have form.



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14 Mar 2022, 4:48 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


Judge Jamie Linn has a very shady past
https://abc7chicago.com/judge-james-lin ... /11644137/

His conduct has been questioned
n 2011, he attracted a lot of controversy after reversing a jury’s verdict in the sexual assault case of three sisters by a man named Joseph Fultz and convicting him of a far less serious sex charge.
According to a report by Injustice Watch, Fultz was given only 18 years in jail, “a far cry from the mandatory life sentence he faced if the jury’s decision had stood.” The report noted, “For the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, the about-face marked the final straw following a series of what prosecutors viewed as unfavorable decisions by Linn on sex cases, according to internal office emails and interviews with several former prosecutors.”
https://meaww.com/james-linn-jussie-smo ... cago-judge

One of the victims in the case said Linn has not overseen a sex case since November 2013. Also recently, one of the victims of the 2011 case said of the judge that he “didn’t really think about the emotional damages that (Fultz) left on me or my sisters or the full nature of how sick he was.” She added, “And it’s not because of the case. It’s because most of the time people don’t care about people that look like me or that have my kind of background. That’s why so many people take (the) law into their own hands.”


and appears to have an axe to grind with Smollet's defense team
https://www.newsweek.com/jussie-smollet ... ur-1655612


You questioned the integrity of the judge involved in the Rittenhouse case, also.
You have form.


Well I'm not hyperpartisan, every judge needs to be scrutinised



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14 Mar 2022, 4:49 am

Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


The fishy part is the Smollett case being dismissed in the first place.
I suspect it was a corruption of the system.


I'm happy with the 150 days if Sherri Pappini also gets 150 days and hit with a fine, What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



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14 Mar 2022, 4:52 am

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Speaking of judges....

As Jussie goes off to spend 150 days in incarceration (which he deserves), one lingering thought is why a judge would choose this particular case out of the thousands of other cases to decry a travesty of justice? censure the original prosecutor and opening a retrial?

In the US there are countless numbers of innocent people charged with crimes where evidence to incarcerate was lacking or there was a clear evidence of police cover up. I have never ever seen a judge come out on their own volition and demand a retrial despite many of these cases being an obvious travesty of justice.

Two interesting points here
1. the prosecutor who used their prosecution discretion to not ask for jail to Jussie was black
2. the judge who demanded a retrial is white

Am I seeing something fishy here?


When did the judge say this in the trial, or what were his grounds for a retrial exactly?


The fishy part is the Smollett case being dismissed in the first place.
I suspect it was a corruption of the system.


I'm happy with the 150 days if Sherri Pappini also gets 150 days and hit with a fine, What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


I can live with that.
But life isn't that simple, since different judges are different judges.