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09 Mar 2022, 4:25 pm

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prolly tastes like cowpie.

Don’t even want to know what the meringue would be made of. 8O

the flash-frozen bubbles atop a bucket of fresh horse pee.



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09 Mar 2022, 5:32 pm

/\I was feeling a tad hungry but after reading that my appetite went away.


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09 Mar 2022, 5:43 pm

what shall we call that diet plan?



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09 Mar 2022, 6:08 pm

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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.


You know full well that no one WANTS to speak about Trump ever again. But you know full well that not talking about Trump is an expensive luxury that no American can afford.

Trump is the one who claims to still be president. So ask HIM why he claims that. Dont ask the rest of us.

Trump tried to reverse the election. Continues the big lie that the election was stolen from him. And he could run again, and could be in the White House again. So he is still a more than relevant public figure. So how can you expect us to not speak of him?



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09 Mar 2022, 6:10 pm

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what shall we call that diet plan?

Maybe I should put a picture of Trump on the fridge door .Lol


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09 Mar 2022, 6:12 pm

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hate is a powerful behavioral motivator, and durable.


I think hate isn't nice. :(



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09 Mar 2022, 6:18 pm

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No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.


What evidence? You are arguing that OMB obstructed the evidence to an event fabricated by someone else? The logic is just not there. His obstruction (telling people not to testify?) wan't as bad as Clinton's and Clinton walked.


Nicely put.

The problem with Trump was that he was a politician with learner plates.
People around him were shocked at his lack of politicial nouse.
So was I.

People need to focus on the fact that Hillary's campaign in trying to compromise Trump with a Russian connection was bogus, not the stupidity of a fledgling politician.

Both sides play dirty politics, btw.
How naive does a person have to be not to realise this?



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09 Mar 2022, 6:23 pm

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Jeff Davis has a decent pie named after him.Who would want to eat Trump pie.I bet I can guess what it tastes like.


A Trumpkin pie? :scratch:

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09 Mar 2022, 6:34 pm

Pepe wrote:
txfz1 wrote:
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txfz1 wrote:
No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.


What evidence? You are arguing that OMB obstructed the evidence to an event fabricated by someone else? The logic is just not there. His obstruction (telling people not to testify?) wan't as bad as Clinton's and Clinton walked.


Nicely put.

The problem with Trump was that he was a politician with learner plates.
People around him were shocked at his lack of politicial nouse.
So was I.

People need to focus on the fact that Hillary's campaign in trying to compromise Trump with a Russian connection was bogus, not the stupidity of a fledgling politician.

Both sides play dirty politics, btw.
How naive does a person have to be not to realise this?


Since when was it bogus? After all, Trump's uncomfortably chummy relations with the Russians after his election only verified something was going on behind the scenes.


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09 Mar 2022, 6:37 pm

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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.


You know full well that no one WANTS to speak about Trump ever again. But you know full well that not talking about Trump is an expensive luxury that no American can afford.

Trump is the one who claims to still be president. So ask HIM why he claims that. Dont ask the rest of us.

Trump tried to reverse the election. Continues the big lie that the election was stolen from him. And he could run again, and could be in the White House again. So he is still a more than relevant public figure. So how can you expect us to not speak of him?


Before I start, let me say I want Trump gone from Ammmuuurian politics.
The obsessive hate for him does nothing to heal society there.

However, :mrgreen:

Being The Oracle of Truth, I must point out some facts.
*The media was against him big time.
*Powerful elements perverted the Truth to influence voters.
*Powerful elements hid nasty facts about Trump's adversary.
*Trump's ego couldn't deal with this and had a brain fart on the 6th.
*10 million votes more for the Democrats convincingly suggests the majority wanted a progressive government.
*The Ammuurian Electoral College System probably needs looking into.

Politics is dirty.
Very dirty. 8)



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09 Mar 2022, 6:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
txfz1 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
txfz1 wrote:
No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.


What evidence? You are arguing that OMB obstructed the evidence to an event fabricated by someone else? The logic is just not there. His obstruction (telling people not to testify?) wan't as bad as Clinton's and Clinton walked.


Nicely put.

The problem with Trump was that he was a politician with learner plates.
People around him were shocked at his lack of politicial nouse.
So was I.

People need to focus on the fact that Hillary's campaign in trying to compromise Trump with a Russian connection was bogus, not the stupidity of a fledgling politician.

Both sides play dirty politics, btw.
How naive does a person have to be not to realise this?


Since when was it bogus? After all, Trump's uncomfortably chummy relations with the Russians after his election only verified something was going on behind the scenes.


We will have to agree to disagree.
There is no point continuing a discussion on this point with you, sorry. :wink:



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09 Mar 2022, 8:58 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.


You know full well that no one WANTS to speak about Trump ever again. But you know full well that not talking about Trump is an expensive luxury that no American can afford.

Trump is the one who claims to still be president. So ask HIM why he claims that. Dont ask the rest of us.

Trump tried to reverse the election. Continues the big lie that the election was stolen from him. And he could run again, and could be in the White House again. So he is still a more than relevant public figure. So how can you expect us to not speak of him?


I'm curious, what personal hardship did you suffer under his presidency? That's something I hardly ever hear about from Americans.



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09 Mar 2022, 9:06 pm

My Obama phone quit working right after Rump was sworn in.They also stopped handing them out to low income people.
Just seeing Trump in the Oval Office was painful.


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09 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm

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My Obama phone quit working right after Rump was sworn in.They also stopped handing them out to low income people.
Just seeing Trump in the Oval Office was painful.


He is gone now.
Oh, wait! 8O :mrgreen:



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09 Mar 2022, 10:23 pm

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I'm curious, what personal hardship did you suffer under his presidency? That's something I hardly ever hear about from Americans.


Can't speak for the person you addressed this to, but I have a list, and these are just off the top of my head:

- My taxes went up
- My husband's employer was struck a death blow by the import duties (Losing a job in my husband's field at his age is a death blow; even with a new job and me working more, our income was cut in half)
- My LGBTQ relatives have faced more discrimination

The one that didn't hit us personally, but hit some 20million if I have the numbers right:

- Families lost their health insurance


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09 Mar 2022, 10:31 pm

Pepe wrote:
We will have to agree to disagree.
There is no point continuing a discussion on this point with you, sorry. :wink:


For the record, this is why I haven't invested more time in pulling up and posting links to what I know is out there to support what I wrote, and that you all seem to be debating without me. No one will ever see what they don't want to see, and I'm tired of going down the same roads with no progress. From my chair it feels like new stuff comes out almost daily that supports my point, but if some people here aren't seeing it, then I have to accept they've already made their choice. Nothing I can post will change it.


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