Biden - MAGA Republicans are existential threat to democracy

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06 Sep 2022, 8:36 am

He's talking about the segment of the Republican Party who still stands by Trump no matter the evidence presented against him. I believe this is, probably at this point, a small minority of Republicans.

He did state he knew Republicans whom he could "work with."



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06 Sep 2022, 8:43 am

And how large is that segment? How many? What percentage? How is it specifically determined who is who?

So any Republican who doesn't work with Biden is an enemy of the state?

Seems like something he can hold over peoples heads.



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06 Sep 2022, 8:52 am

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The Purpose of Biden’s Speech from Hell - Larry Alex Taunton

"Have you noticed how obsessed Democrats are with the subject of violence?

To hear their telling of it, MAGA Republicans “represent a clear and present danger to our democracy.” You would almost think these mostly middle class Americans are in the streets rioting, tossing Molotov cocktails through the windows of businesses, looting, burning cities, attempting assassinations of Supreme Court Justices, and, well, doing what Antifa and Black Lives Matter, the Brownshirt element of the Democrat Party, have been doing for years.

Last Thursday, Joe Biden let loose a harangue of fiery anti-MAGA—no, anti-American—rhetoric in front of Philadelphia’s historic Independence Hall. But this wasn’t the Independence Hall of your Schoolhouse Rock! youth. This was an Independence Hall illuminated in a hellish red as if the speech were being broadcast live from Dante’s Inferno. As darkly ominous silhouettes of Marines flanked Biden like white gloved demons, Biden shook his fists in a manner so reminiscent of Hitler that it alarmed some Jews."


https://larryalextaunton.com/2022/09/th ... from-hell/

Meanwhile, in objective reality, almost All political violence in the USA comes from the fringe right and all indicators are that Right Wing trump cultists have a propensity for violence.. as indicated by literal polls asking direct questions about whether or not they're prepared to commit acts of violence on trump's behalf.

Further, trump has spent years promoting violence at his rallies. Instructing attendees and security to "knock the crap out of 'em," telling them he'll pay their legal bills etc.

It's maga republicans that stormed the capitol building and got people killed. It's maga republicans that injured hundreds of police officers that day.

There's no denying the source of most political violence in the USA. Facts are facts.


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06 Sep 2022, 9:06 am

Any Republican who unabashedly backs Trump....is probably not somebody who I would trust.

I don't care if a Republicans disagrees with Biden. I care more if the Republican, despite the evidence, wants Trump back in the White House, even though he lost the election. I wouldn't care too much if a Republican disagrees with Biden, yet does not believe Trump won the election in 2020.



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06 Sep 2022, 9:53 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
He's talking about the segment of the Republican Party who still stands by Trump no matter the evidence presented against him. I believe this is, probably at this point, a small minority of Republicans.

He did state he knew Republicans whom he could "work with."


yep. People who want to create (continue) division and people who want to lazily have a pop at Joe Biden will simply pretend he said it about all of them (just as they did with Hillary's 'deplorables' comment)



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06 Sep 2022, 12:15 pm

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Surely, not every MAGA Republican is an imminent danger to this country.

The ideology behind MAGA Republicans, however, could prove dangerous if taken to its extreme.

At this point the phenomenon as a whole is.


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06 Sep 2022, 12:26 pm

^When it comes to voting time, if trump is on the ballot again, you guys should probably mail your ballots in and then take a vacation to Canada and hangout until the dust (gun powder?) settles. That's probably what I'd do.


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06 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wouldn't care too much if a Republican disagrees with Biden, yet does not believe Trump won the election in 2020.
That's the normal situation in democracy.
The opposition is to criticize the government and have other opinions on various policies.
The constitution and elections results are respected by both the government and the opposition.

If we ignore the latter, we have a straight road to dictatorship.


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06 Sep 2022, 3:28 pm

Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/


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06 Sep 2022, 9:23 pm

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Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/

Why watch clips instead of the message in its entirety?

Or better yet, read and study the transcript?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... he-nation/



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06 Sep 2022, 9:27 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/

Why watch clips instead of the message in its entirety?

Or better yet, read and study the transcript?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... he-nation/

Okay. Watch/read the whole thing. Biden didn't say what you keep claiming he did.


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06 Sep 2022, 9:38 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/

Why watch clips instead of the message in its entirety?

Or better yet, read and study the transcript?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... he-nation/

Okay. Watch/read the whole thing. Biden didn't say what you keep claiming he did.

I hardly stand alone.



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06 Sep 2022, 9:40 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/

Why watch clips instead of the message in its entirety?

Or better yet, read and study the transcript?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... he-nation/

Okay. Watch/read the whole thing. Biden didn't say what you keep claiming he did.

I hardly stand alone.

Mass delusion?


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06 Sep 2022, 9:43 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ppl like Matrix need to re-watch clips what Biden actually said: (hint: He didn't say all 75 million trump voters)

https://fb.watch/fnpGo-QCve/

Why watch clips instead of the message in its entirety?

Or better yet, read and study the transcript?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... he-nation/

Okay. Watch/read the whole thing. Biden didn't say what you keep claiming he did.

I hardly stand alone.

Mass delusion?

In just a brief exploration it can be seen that Biden said:

"Now, I want to be very clear — (applause) — very clear up front: Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology."

But then went on to say:

"But there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country."

That's just for starters.

Btw just as an anecdote, back in the day many impersonations of Nixon started out with the line "Let me make one thing perfectly clear..."



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06 Sep 2022, 10:04 pm

^ and ? What about your Biden quote? It still doesn't say what you claim Biden said.


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06 Sep 2022, 10:50 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
^ and ? What about your Biden quote? It still doesn't say what you claim Biden said.

You've shown a consistent pattern in not getting things. Even when it's explained to you several times.