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12 Mar 2020, 10:32 am

The Millennials really don't feel that way about the Baby Boomers----except in a few absolutely cuckoo and insane cases.



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12 Mar 2020, 10:38 am

Even amongst people in the 70s/80s or above, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is 8.0% for people 70-79, and 14.8% for people 80 or over (according to a study done by the Journal of the American Medical Association, published on 2/24/2020). These are figures from China, primarily.

Most of the people who passed away had co-morbid conditions like high blood pressure and diabetes.



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12 Mar 2020, 11:06 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Even amongst people in the 70s/80s or above, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is 8.0% for people 70-79, and 14.8% for people 80 or over (according to a study done by the Journal of the American Medical Association, published on 2/24/2020). These are figures from China.

Those are the figures from a country where most people who fell ill still received health care, ie fell ill while there were either enough existing intensive care beds in hospitals or enough beds in new hospitals built in 6 days ....

And those rates/percentages go up significantly if have other existing health problems; cardiovascular disorders, diabetes, hypertension, among others.

And they don't, of course, include the figures for other people over-65, with or without other illnesses, who almost certainly died in greater numbers because health care and home care etc services were struggling/overwhelmed.

The accounts emerging from front line health care workers/medical staff in Italy are horrible. As were the occasional reports from nurses in Wuhan etc, where only fully centralised quarantine measures and facilities finally stopped the spread. ...

... How well would/will people in the West, young or old, cope with centralised quarantine conditions? Sleeping on temporary/camp/basic cot beds in big halls with hundreds of other people, etc.

I know that I'd do almost anything to avoid that. The noise, the lack of privacy, the awful food, etc. If it isn't compulsory how many may die in the west because they would simply rather stay home, with no medical care? :?



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12 Mar 2020, 11:28 am

Numerous Connecticut schools have started closing, almost all in the New York metro.
https://patch.com/connecticut/stratford ... gs-ct-list

Colleges have started as well, the largest being UConn.


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12 Mar 2020, 11:37 am

I wouldn't like living under those quarantine conditions----but if we have to, we have to.

In the NYC area, the only place that has "sort" of a quarantine in place is a 1 square mile area of New Rochelle, NY. People who aren't sick could still go to work, still go shopping, etc. The controls are tighter there, though.



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12 Mar 2020, 11:40 am

Denmark is on full lockdown now.

Justin Trudeau's wife is sick and was tested for Corona. So the PM of Canada is on quarantine with her.


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12 Mar 2020, 11:42 am

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Young people feel very bad but recover,.


they get better but is it a real "recovery"?

i keep hearing the body doesn't build immunity to this the way it does with other viruses - get infected again and it could very well end you


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12 Mar 2020, 11:44 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wouldn't like living under those quarantine conditions----but if we have to, we have to.

In the NYC area, the only place that has "sort" of a quarantine in place is a 1 square mile area of New Rochelle, NY. People who aren't sick could still go to work, still go shopping, etc. The controls are tighter there, though.


Is it a square mile or is it a one mile radius?



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12 Mar 2020, 11:45 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wouldn't like living under those quarantine conditions----but if we have to, we have to.

In the NYC area, the only place that has "sort" of a quarantine in place is a 1 square mile area of New Rochelle, NY. People who aren't sick could still go to work, still go shopping, etc. The controls are tighter there, though.


Has there been more paranoia or less people walking about in certain areas?

The only confirmed people in CT with it (last I checked) are from New York, state though. Some have suggested sealing the border, but that wouldn't work as we don't have a wall or any means of keeping them out and many Nutmeggers work in New York.


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12 Mar 2020, 11:46 am

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Denmark is on full lockdown now.

Justin Trudeau's wife is sick and was tested for Corona. So the PM of Canada is on quarantine with her.


What do you mean by full lockdown? No stores open?



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12 Mar 2020, 11:46 am

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cyberdad wrote:
Might have something to do with the Chinese penchant for eating live animals

today's news
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... f89111c0fb

Apparently young Chinese women think eating live animals will make them beautiful


Some are keeping exotic animals as pets. People do that here too.

What's totally f**ked up is that apartment landlords won't allow dogs, but they'll allow all those creepy crawlies.

Spitting cobras blinding someone vs. dogs crapping on the carpet

Hey,my cobras have good manners and don’t spit on people.On the other hand the dog I’m watching for a relative craps in the house every night.


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12 Mar 2020, 11:49 am

One mile radius in New Rochelle

There has not been a huge decrease in people commuting to work by crowded subway train----maybe a slight decrease. Less than 1% of the people wear masks. The roads are still jam-packed at rush hour.

Precautions are being taken. At the college where I work, there's no in-person classes---but the library is still open. I work the front desk. I wear gloves.



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12 Mar 2020, 11:53 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
One mile radius in New Rochelle

There has not been a huge decrease in people commuting to work by crowded subway train----maybe a slight decrease. Less than 1% of the people wear masks. The roads are still jam-packed at rush hour.

Precautions are being taken. At the college where I work, there's no in-person classes---but the library is still open. I work the front desk. I wear gloves.


How long are the in-person classes canceled? Here they are switching to online only for two weeks after spring break to deep clean the schools and allow time to quarantine if necessary.



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12 Mar 2020, 11:58 am

At this time, there will be no in-person classes until March 29th.

The library will have somewhat-reduced hours----but this would have happened anyway, since this is Spring Break.



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12 Mar 2020, 12:44 pm

China accusing US:

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/chinese ... -to-wuhan/

Probably a stupid propaganda.



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12 Mar 2020, 12:46 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
China accusing US:

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/chinese ... -to-wuhan/

Probably a stupid propaganda.


Someone should tell the Chinese government that wearing a foil hat provides protection from the covid-19.