Woman calls cops another Black Jogger

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And so, her actions should be examined predominantly (solely?) in light of her race, ignoring any other factor or possible explanations as to what occurred? How "enlightened" you must feel, judging people on the colour of their skin in this way...


How little you know (or read of what other post here...) For example, from the latest case:


For each of these "hypothetical" statements (and the responce from the defence to these statements), the court has to decide the truth regarding the hypothetical situations.


Given it's their job to do so, yes.

And those whose duty it is to present evidence of "racism" to the courts and who had access to much more material related to the people and situation than we have here were unable to find it (which could also have involved considering precisely these sorts of hypothetical questions, having to present a case and prove such a thing "beyond reasonable doubt"), and so made no assertions of racism on her part to the court, yet still we have people claiming to know more than they did...

It's certainly enlightening that people who can feel so "informed" about a situation as to make definitive claims about it are apparently incapable of answering a simple question where one minor detail is changed. It's a simple question, there's nothing complicated about it, yet they evade providing any opinion on the presence (or lack thereof) of racism in the situation: There's no need to write a book, just respond with "yes, because...", or "no, because..." - It shouldn't need more than one or two sentences to answer at most...

We keep going in circles Brictoria

She is seeking resorative justice against Franklin Temnpleton for an act that she knowingly admitted she committed.

Need I remind you that “her poor judgment in a snap second.” (and keep in mind she went much further in her apology to Christian Cooper) mean't she agreed to participate in five therapy sessions, which included racial bias education

Therefore by her own admission she has agreed her actions were racist therefore ergo...Franklin Templeton were entitled to state her actions were racist and entitled to fire her as being unsuitable for her role.

east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet.

She denied being racist.

She never apologized for being racist.

"I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way," she said, adding that she also didn't mean any harm to the African American community.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/us/centr ... index.html

Her attorney is proud that the DA did not require an admission of guilt to drop the charges.

So, she never admitted guilt of racism.

Here's a couple for you, Brictoria - why do you think she added the detail of "African American man" when threatening Christian Cooper - she's just being innocently accurate or pedantic? Do you seriously believe that her words were not intending to convey some extra sense of urgency and threat level because of his color - his irrelevant color?

Phew, thank goodness for that.
Well - case over, I guess.
/sarc

She just didn’t want to leash her dog.....maybe the guy was overly vigilant about the rule—but there is a good reason for leash laws in urban areas.

She was a b***h about it. She wanted to take full advantage of the racial prejudice of cops in order to get her “point” across.

Oh, he's perfectly well aware of those facts (having had them pointed out previously), but as they don't match the fantasy he has concocted around what happened, he ignores them.

After all, considering the penalties for lawyers lodging information known to be false (which includes losing the ability to practice law), her lawyers wouldn't have included the following in the recent case, were the above fanatsy to be true:


It's merely another attempt at misdirection to avoid answering the simple question: Were all facts in the case the same, but Ms Cooper were of "African American" descent, would he label the Ms Cooper (or her actions) as being racist (and why\why not).

The "Oh, that is a hypothetical situation", or "I would need it to happen to be able to decide" that had previously been used to avoid answering a simple question, however, do suggest a certain set of beliefs about those trying to hide behind them...

Pfft - this in itself is misdirection.
The fact is, she is not black.

It's nice so many males here feel that a female, being approached by a male saying in an aggressive tone (based on the report of another incident involving this person) "I'm going to do what I want, and you may not like it" would have nothing to fear... It's easy, from a "privileged" male's view, with the benefit of hindsight, to claim there was nothing to be concerned about, but a single female in that position, at that time, with no benefit of hindsight is very likely to see things differently...

The most likely reason is that she DID fear for her safety, given there were no other people nearby.

As to why the specific focus:

Source: https://time.com/3625414/rape-trauma-brain-memory/

if you feel females shouldn't call the police when they fear being the victim of an assault, but rather allow it to happen to them, thats your choice: I'd rather a female (or, in fact, any person) call the police, and so ensure their safety, than to have to suffer through the experience of an assault... But maybe I'm in the minority in holding this view: It certainly seems that way, based on the responces I have seen here throughout the thread.

Not misdirection: Merely a way to clarify people's views of racism, particularly in regards to this situation: It should be an easy one to answer, given the facts of the incident are well enough known for people to determine it was "racism"...As this minor variable would have been of no importance in the interaction as it occurred (unless a person believed Ms Cooper was approached becuase of her race...) it should be an easy question to answer: Would people's opinion of Ms Cooper (and\or her actions) have been different were she of "African American" descent.

It's not a trick question, it uses the same information as used to make the snap decision as to Ms Cooper's "guilt" - with only a minor change - so those who claim Ms Cooper was racist should have no problem answering it and explaining how they came to the conclusion they did.

Let's see:




Let's consider the view of a person who had interacted with Mr Cooper in the past, and see what they have to say...


Quotes taken from recently lodged case by Ms Cooper against her former employer. A copy of the full email sent by Mr Lockett to NBC on May 26. 2020 is included in it as Exhibit "A".

Cyberdad did answer this question many months ago in this topic, he admitted that if the races were reversed, then this is all much ado about nothing.

***Weirdo white man aggressively demands a black woman do as he says, or he's going to do something she won't like, like illegally enticing her dog away from her, or worse ***

Groups would be shouting RACISM!

Much as I suspected, based on his attitude to people in various "high profile" situations...

However that is altering 2 variables in the situation (Mr Cooper's race and Ms Cooper's race), which requires additional changes (words used by participants, for example).

The question I was after an answer to was merely changing the race of Ms Cooper, such that the words, actions, etc. remain as they were (no changing "I'm going to tell them an African American man is threatening me" to indicate a different race)...Given the above, I have my suspicions as to what the responce would be - Should we ever receive one.

So you ignore my question and instead offer this diversion:

{expected gymnastics snipped}
As the saying goes, "what a crock".
You're extrapolating ad nauseam any conceivably arguable point to arrive at lofty assertions of male privilege and accusations of believing that females should suffer?
It's ridiculous.

In this alternate scenario is the only difference the race of the two protagonists?

Assuming it is it would be considered exactly what it was another dust up between two hostile aggressive New Yorkers. Probably no charges, no media coverage, and no 61 pages and counting Wrong Planet thread.

A black women calling the the police saying a white man menacing me just does not have that long racist historical trope of black men raping white women that has led to lynchings and pograms like the one whose 100th anniversary that is being remembered today. By emphasizing black Amy Cooper expected Christian Cooper to give in, in the expectation the cops would shoot him down in cold blood.

Add to that George Floyd being murdered that day and the “Karen” thing happening and what she did could not have fit a political narrative more perfectly.