India launches first home-grown ballistic missile submarine

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27 Jul 2009, 6:38 am

India Launches First Indigenous Nuclear Powered Submarine Arihant

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India launched her first indigenous nuclear powered submarine Arihant on July 26. The submarine designed and constructed in India as Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project since 1970’s has become a reality. ‘Arihant’ means ‘Destroyer of Enemies’.
...the nuclear powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN)...
Arihant is expected to be available for deployment to the Indian Navy after harbour trials and sea trials by 2011.


BBC News India Launches Submarine

Will say up front as far as submarines as machines in and of themselves, be they military, tourist, research, private, I think they are pretty cool gizmos.
Grew up fascinated by films of Jacques Cousteau's deep sea research.
Have no desire to live or work in a submarine of whatever kind, but they are way cool.

As far as the technological achievement and shipyard jobs gained by keeping construction at home, gotta give India credit for that!


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27 Jul 2009, 7:19 am

Bad thing. Any one more nuclear weapon poses an increased danger to the world. But it's surprising that if any country has nuclear weapons, it's world news, except for the US...maybe tha'ts because it's supposed to be common knowledge that the US is the only country ever to have used a nuclear weapon directly against people.



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27 Jul 2009, 8:30 am

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Bad thing. Any one more nuclear weapon poses an increased danger to the world. But it's surprising that if any country has nuclear weapons, it's world news, except for the US...maybe tha'ts because it's supposed to be common knowledge that the US is the only country ever to have used a nuclear weapon directly against people.


So basically you're saying that Great Britian, France and Israel are threats to the world since they have nuclear weapons. The Indian Nuclear Sub is a nuclear attack submarine not a ballistic missile submarine. Nuclear Weapons were the biggest deterrent in the Cold War. Other thing that not many people do not know, 95% of the world's nuclear weapons are in the U.S. and Russia combined. India's nuclear sub actually would not be up to par with U.S. Nuclear Attack Submarines like the Virginia Class and other nuclear attack submarines classes in the world.


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27 Jul 2009, 10:49 am

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The Indian Nuclear Sub is a nuclear attack submarine not a ballistic missile submarine.


You sure about that?


India Today K-15 Test
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The Defence Research and Development Organisation is to conduct the final test launch of the K-15, India's first submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) from off the coast of Visakhapatnam on Tuesday. The missile can carry a one-tonne nuclear weapon to a distance of 700 km.


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VISAKHAPATNAM: It may be a ‘baby’ but it’s a ‘boomer’ all right. India’s new stealth nuke weapon packs an awesome punch, armed with
12 nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles in four silos on its ‘hump’,
as also a wide array of anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles and torpedoes.

India’s first indigenous nuclear-powered submarine equipped with ballistic missiles, dubbed an SSBN or a ‘boomer’ in military parlance, INS Arihant was launched by flooding the dry dock at the Shipbuilding Centre here on Sunday.

Though it has only a 6,000-tonne surface displacement, less than half the size of the SSBNs fielded by the Big-5 nations, the 110m long and 11m wide Arihant surely lives up to its Sanskrit name, ‘destroyer of enemies’.


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India launched on Sunday its first nuclear-powered submarine capable of firing ballistic missiles, completing a nuclear triad encompassing land, air and sea, officials said.

The submarine, Arihant, the first of two similar submarines to be built indigenously with technical help from Russia, will undergo sea trials before its formal induction in 2015, defence officials said.

The 5,500 tonne nuclear-powered Arihant, when inducted, will be capable of carrying 100 sailors and a wide range of torpedoes and ballistic missiles, officials added.


India Launches First Indigenous Nuclear Powered Submarine Arihant
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India launched her first indigenous nuclear powered submarine Arihant on July 26. The submarine designed and constructed in India as Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project since 1970’s has become a reality. ‘Arihant’ means ‘Destroyer of Enemies’.
...the nuclear powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN)...
Arihant is expected to be available for deployment to the Indian Navy after harbour trials and sea trials by 2011.


DNA India
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The 6000-tonne nuclear submarine, known as boomer in popular parlance and named Arihant (destroyer of enemy), will carry 'Sagarika' ballistic missile and will come in handy in for retaliation in case of an enemy nuclear strike. The missile will have a range of 700 km.

With a diving depth of around 500 metres, Arihant will have the capability to keep itself hidden from the enemy's probing eyes for very long periods and can fire the 700 Km range submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM) K-15, which was tested from pontoon docks by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) last year.


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The 6000-tonne submarine is powered by an 85 megawatt capacity nuclear reactor and can acquire surface speeds of 22 to 28 kmph (12-15 knots) and submerged speed upto 44 kmph (24 knots). It will be carrying a crew of 95 men and will be armed with torpedoes and missiles including 12 ballistic missiles.
'INS Arihant' can also be armed with cruise missiles. The DRDO is already working on an equally secretive Sagarika project for a 700-km K-15 missile, capable of carrying nuclear weapons.


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The project director, Vice Admiral (retd) D S P Verma, said that the Arihant is a 6,000-tonne submarine with a length of 110 meters and a breadth of 11 meters. The length is about 10 percent longer than previously published estimates, while the 11 meter beam is much less than the 15 meters of previous un-offcial estimates. Experts say the vessel will be able to carry 12 K 15 submarine launched ballistic missiles that have a range of over 700 km.

Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV)

The plan for the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) until the late 1980s, was to build an SSN—a fast-moving deep-diving nuclear-powered attack submarine, which would hunt surface ships. Around the time India leased a Charlie-I class nuclear-powered attack submarine from the Soviet Union, planning veered towards building a submarine carrying ballistic missiles. The hull design was lengthened and the SSN quietly transformed into an SSBN able to fit as many as 12 SLBMs.

The Indian Navy is pitching for a submarine-launched nuclear missile to boost the nation's deterrence capabilities. "With nuclear proliferation posing a greater threat along with Weapons of Mass Destruction, our unilateral policy of no-first-use necessitates that India possesses a credible and survivable nuclear deterrent, including submarine-launched," Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said pn 08 October 2008. India had in February 2008 tested a submarine-launched ballistic missile for the first time that would take another three years to be fully operational.


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27 Jul 2009, 12:43 pm

I am doubtful that the SLBM of India are nowhere near what the UGM-133 Trident II SLBM in the Ohio-class of the U.S. is capable of. 700km seems only to be a threat to Pakistan and neighboring countries. SSBN technology with the U.S. is at the top of countries who have the submarines, capabilities, and resources to do so.


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27 Jul 2009, 1:23 pm

Congratulations...welcome to the club...was I suppose to bring a gift?



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27 Jul 2009, 1:32 pm

southwestforests wrote:
JerryHatake wrote:
The Indian Nuclear Sub is a nuclear attack submarine not a ballistic missile submarine.


You sure about that?


India Today K-15 Test
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The Defence Research and Development Organisation is to conduct the final test launch of the K-15, India's first submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) from off the coast of Visakhapatnam on Tuesday. The missile can carry a one-tonne nuclear weapon to a distance of 700 km.


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27 Jul 2009, 4:27 pm

so now Pakistan will have to make the first 'Islamic Sub'...



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27 Jul 2009, 5:36 pm

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Congratulations...welcome to the club...was I suppose to bring a gift?

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28 Jul 2009, 6:20 am

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so now Pakistan will have to make the first 'Islamic Sub'...


Launches torpedoes against infidel vessels five times a day.

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28 Jul 2009, 5:50 pm

This is bad for US interests. This is going to escelate tenstions between them again, and we need to be friends with India for economic reasons and friends with Pakistan to win the war in Afghanistan.


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28 Jul 2009, 6:47 pm

Mentioned this to a retired Navy fellow yesterday and he was saying in his view it is good for western interests in general as it gives a (mostly?) west-friendly presence in the area to keep watch on China.

He also said what will be an interesting thing to watch is the ongoing border tension between India and China. And remember China has said it intends to drive down the west.

Here's an interesting read on that angle http://news.ronatvan.com/2009/03/04/chinas-plan-to-conquer/
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China’s Plan To Conquer
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The following is the actual text of a speech delivered in December, 2005 by Comrade Chi Haotian ­the Vice-Chairman of China’s Military Commission to top officers and generals. Keep in mind that China has for many years advocated deceitful and covert warfare against its enemies. This is their Modus Operandi. There should be little question that a “Bird Flu” Pandemic would deeply excite them. (Don’t forget how they have poisoned thousands of American pets and knowingly placed lead paints on toddler’s toys.)


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29 Jul 2009, 3:22 pm

Perhaps they should use their money to eliminate famine, poverty and hunger first?

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29 Jul 2009, 5:15 pm

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Perhaps they should use their money to eliminate famine, poverty and hunger first?

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Or they could do somethig about the fact the AIDS is up 2000% among kids in India?



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29 Jul 2009, 5:29 pm

India has had nukes for years so I don't see what the big deal is. Besides, they likely wouldn't use their nukes against the USA or Europe, though they may use them against Pakistan or Bangladesh.


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