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16 Sep 2009, 8:18 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_ ... bama_tweet

Barak Obama said that the reason Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift's award acceptance speech to say that Beyonce should have gotten the award was that "He's a jackass." He didn't even say this in an official interview, he said it off the record. Kanye West has apologized for the incident and seems to think the same thing of himself anyway. What I don't understand is why Obama's comment about it was inappropriate... it's not only true, it's what almost everybody thinks of the incident!



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16 Sep 2009, 8:29 am

Someone in his position shouldn't even be seen to acknowledge that kind of thing really and especially shouldn't have such a strong opinion on it. Also it's not exactly presidential language.

Most likely this is a planted story though since I hear his approval rating has dipped. This kind of thing makes politicans seem more real apparently.



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16 Sep 2009, 9:05 am

Okay, I read the article. The only time the word "inappropriate" appears is in the quote from President Obama, in which he's refering to the incident between Mr. West and Ms. Swift. However, what was inappropriate was for the comments to be released at all. There are clear rules regarding what is considered to "on the record" and what is "off the record" and any journalist who has ever covered a political beat knows them.

Political officials are allowed to have personal opinions, they just shouldn't make them public policy. In this case, the president was expressing a personal opinion in an environment that should have been safe for doing so. In fact, the reporter to whom the comment was made did not report it. It was reported by someone from another station who was eavesdropping on a shared fiber-optic line. The reporter was at one time a White House corresspondant. He knew the proper rules and he should have been perfectly aware that the comment was made in such a manner as to be "off the record." If he says otherwise, he's either an idiot who shouldn't ever be allowed to interview a public figure again, or a liar. His behavior was inappropriate because he violated the rules that bind journalists.

This is comparable to the incident during the first President Bush's term, when a journalist "friend" of First Lady Barbara Bush reported that she had called Hillary Clinton by an unfortunate epithet during an off the record conversation. That was also highly inappropriate for the reporter to do and very embarrassing for a First Lady who is, first of all, a true lady in her normal behavior. Hopefully, it will blow over just as quickly because the whole incident is just as silly.



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16 Sep 2009, 12:25 pm

Hmmmn wrote:
Someone in his position shouldn't even be seen to acknowledge that kind of thing really and especially shouldn't have such a strong opinion on it. Also it's not exactly presidential language.

Most likely this is a planted story though since I hear his approval rating has dipped. This kind of thing makes politicans seem more real apparently.

So the president shouldn't be able to express his/her opinion off the record at all? :?



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16 Sep 2009, 12:27 pm

But Kanye West IS a jackass!


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16 Sep 2009, 12:37 pm

buryuntime wrote:
So the president shouldn't be able to express his/her opinion off the record at all? :?


He can say what he wants but it's not as if he doesn't know what's going to happen when he does. This isn't the first time he's said something seen as innaprpriate and it's been splashed all over the news and it's no coincidence the previous pres was prone to doing it too :wink:



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16 Sep 2009, 2:12 pm

No, no, no, I'm not going to get sucked back into judging a president on minutiae. He hasn't screwed the economy and he hasn't stared a WAR with another nation because of oil, his daddy, or his failing policies. Far as I'm concerned, if he can turn around the impossible situation he inherited he can dance around naked with a rubber glove on his head yelling, "Hi! I'm a squid!" and I'll still salute him.


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16 Sep 2009, 2:38 pm

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No, no, no, I'm not going to get sucked back into judging a president on minutiae. He hasn't screwed the economy and he hasn't stared a WAR with another nation because of oil, his daddy, or his failing policies. Far as I'm concerned, if he can turn around the impossible situation he inherited he can dance around naked with a rubber glove on his head yelling, "Hi! I'm a squid!" and I'll still salute him.

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16 Sep 2009, 4:44 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:
Why is this inappropriate?

Because the general public lives in a fantasy world.

Double standard
- average public human being has a "Freedom of Speech" right to talk that way
- but the President, who's also a human being; OMG! He said the same thing I did - HOW DARE HIM!

In practice, my thought is, that if you're the President, be aware that it's kind of going to be like everything you say and do is going to be "Public Property".


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16 Sep 2009, 6:40 pm

ViperaAspis wrote:
No, no, no, I'm not going to get sucked back into judging a president on minutiae. He hasn't screwed the economy and he hasn't stared a WAR with another nation because of oil, his daddy, or his failing policies. Far as I'm concerned, if he can turn around the impossible situation he inherited he can dance around naked with a rubber glove on his head yelling, "Hi! I'm a squid!" and I'll still salute him.


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16 Sep 2009, 7:14 pm

Just like Kanye, Mr. Obama just cant keep away.

at least i agree with him for once. so :wtg:

ViperaAspis wrote:
No, no, no, I'm not going to get sucked back into judging a president on minutiae. He hasn't screwed the economy and he hasn't stared a WAR with another nation because of oil, his daddy, or his failing policies. Far as I'm concerned, if he can turn around the impossible situation he inherited he can dance around naked with a rubber glove on his head yelling, "Hi! I'm a squid!" and I'll still salute him.


lol, he hasnt strayed much from the bush field...and yet you still find the need to insult bush.

dont let your biases ruin your perception.


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16 Sep 2009, 7:47 pm

Usually the president probably shouldn't comment on stuff like this or call people jackasses but it was off the record so whatever. I want to see Kanye's reaction though, hopefully he's not on any telethons anytime soon.



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16 Sep 2009, 9:25 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
But Kanye West IS a jackass!


yeah, no one yelled "You Lie!" at him for that! :D


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16 Sep 2009, 9:50 pm

Maybe all those fish sticks altered his personality.


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16 Sep 2009, 9:55 pm

oscuria wrote:
Just like Kanye, Mr. Obama just cant keep away.

at least i agree with him for once. so :wtg:

ViperaAspis wrote:
No, no, no, I'm not going to get sucked back into judging a president on minutiae. He hasn't screwed the economy and he hasn't stared a WAR with another nation because of oil, his daddy, or his failing policies. Far as I'm concerned, if he can turn around the impossible situation he inherited he can dance around naked with a rubber glove on his head yelling, "Hi! I'm a squid!" and I'll still salute him.


lol, he hasnt strayed much from the bush field...and yet you still find the need to insult bush.

dont let your biases ruin your perception.


this comment about the mote in someone's eye when your avatar shows the log in your own?


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16 Sep 2009, 10:16 pm

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