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"Duuuude! I think we hit somethin'...
I forgot to open the garage door, man..."
I always found MJ to be a wonderful social lubricant. Perhaps not so much because it relaxed my autistic anxieties, as that it made my endless enthusiastic rambling monologues about my obsessive interests easier for others to tolerate. 
I'm all for it - like George Washington, I believe it should be made the national flower and sown along roadsides all across the country...
09 Oct 2009, 12:10 pm
Willard wrote:
"Duuuude! I think we hit somethin'...
I forgot to open the garage door, man..."
I always found MJ to be a wonderful social lubricant. Perhaps not so much because it relaxed my autistic anxieties, as that it made my endless enthusiastic rambling monologues about my obsessive interests easier for others to tolerate.
I'm all for it - like George Washington, I believe it should be made the national flower and sown along roadsides all across the country...
I forgot to open the garage door, man..."
I always found MJ to be a wonderful social lubricant. Perhaps not so much because it relaxed my autistic anxieties, as that it made my endless enthusiastic rambling monologues about my obsessive interests easier for others to tolerate.
I'm all for it - like George Washington, I believe it should be made the national flower and sown along roadsides all across the country...
You're funny
09 Oct 2009, 3:14 pm
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09 Oct 2009, 7:09 pm
LOL @ Willard 
Seriously though, I'm skeptical about giving MJ to a 9 yr old. The body changes so much and so rapidly between the ages of 0 and 18(?), with no real clinical studies to back this up or facts regarding pros/cons, it just seems like a haphazard way to go about testing whether there are real and long-term benefits to the child.
Don't get me wrong. I'm very much in favor of legalizing it and letting adults make their own choices 
09 Oct 2009, 8:28 pm
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14 Oct 2009, 2:10 pm
Fogman wrote:
AspieFireMan wrote:
Parents have been giving their nine year old autistic son medical marijuana and have seen promising results
I tried that on my own when I was 13. It didn't work. I havn't touched the stuff since 1991 because it makes me paranoid and very self conscious about my weirdness.
I tried it around 22 or so and it just made me rather silly. Years later, it did the paranoia thing and nothing overall as a benefit. Then, after finally performing extensive research on cannabis (beyond that of already knowing the harm from cannabis comes from the legal status and it was overall harmless within reason) I had to smirk from my ignorance. The strains they have out there, the variety, it is so very important in determining how it effects you. While I am not cannabis fan (as in I don't get the fun joy stuff that seems to attract so many) in respect for my own use, I did find a strain that was known for leaving you with a clear head (the short term easy to forget short term memory chatter is still there) and not having you couch surfing. The med I was taking had me so utterly nauseous (2-3 weeks until acclimated) that it was sheer hell and anything requiring concentration was nearly impossible.
1 medium pull from a vaporizer of the strain and the nausea was gone in about 30 seconds
Lasting perhaps around 2-3 hours.****
So, here's some info about youngins using ganja and further below is more info as a whole, as it's sometimes difficult to believe how much the DEA will flat out lie and do the wordplay game and so on.
When pondering these things, consider finding out what other medications they would be administered if applicable. It can be startling when you research the drugs they give kiddies.
Recent Research on Medical Marijuana
http://www.norml.org//index.cfm?Group_ID=7002
Quote:
As clinical research into the therapeutic value of cannabinoids has proliferated – there are now more than 17,000 published papers in the scientific literature analyzing marijuana and its constituents — so too has investigators' understanding of cannabis' remarkable capability to combat disease
17,000 published papers
Health Reports
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3471
2009 Marijuana's Impact On Adolescent Brain "Subtle" Compared To That Of Alcohol
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7829
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Chronic marijuana use by adolescents may subtly impair certain neurocognitive skills, but this impairment is far less severe than the adverse effects associated with the use of alcohol, according to a review published in the January issue of the scientific journal Clinical EEG and Neuroscience.
Investigators at San Diego State University and the University of California at San Diego wrote: "Recent research has indicated that adolescent substance users show abnormalities on measures of brain functioning, which is linked to changes in neurocognition over time. Abnormalities have been seen in brain structure volume, white matter quality, and activation to cognitive tasks, even in youth with as little as one to two years of heavy drinking and consumption levels of 20 drinks per month, especially if [more than] four or five drinks are consumed on a single occasion. Heavy marijuana users show some subtle anomalies too, but generally not the same degree of divergence from demographically similar non-using adolescents."
Investigators at San Diego State University and the University of California at San Diego wrote: "Recent research has indicated that adolescent substance users show abnormalities on measures of brain functioning, which is linked to changes in neurocognition over time. Abnormalities have been seen in brain structure volume, white matter quality, and activation to cognitive tasks, even in youth with as little as one to two years of heavy drinking and consumption levels of 20 drinks per month, especially if [more than] four or five drinks are consumed on a single occasion. Heavy marijuana users show some subtle anomalies too, but generally not the same degree of divergence from demographically similar non-using adolescents."
2006 Cannabis Exposure Not Toxic To The Developing Brain, Study Says
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6897
2005 Heavy Cannabis Use Not Associated With Cognitive Deficits, Study Says
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6516
Below you will see the use of "smoke" as harmful and what not...
Proof: NO CONNECTION between Marijuana use and Lung Disease or Cancer
-- http://stash.norml.org/proof-no-connect ... -or-cancer
Just to address what will be said which people seem to believe with far too much ease.
Study Debunks Claim That Pot Smoking Causes Mental Illness
http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/01/study- ... l-illness/
Keep in mind that of course using a vaporizer makes more sense, regardless, try and swallow what Gil and the DEA say after reading the above research. This is the madness that is destroying USA, Mexico and now Canada (well, Cannucks were headed to doom based on the rise in Christian insanity over there).
Drug Czar Kerlikowske: “Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit”
http://stash.norml.org/drug-czar-kerlik ... al-benefit
Drug Czar Clarification: ‘Smoked Marijuana’ Is Dangerous And Has No Medicinal Value?
http://blog.norml.org/2009/08/08/drug-c ... nal-value/
Here is what the government/DEA has currently to say about cannabis.
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/index.html
http://www.ncjrs.gov/ondcppubs/publicat ... ana_fs.pdf
Quote:
Simply put, the smoked form of marijuana is not considered modern medicine. On April 20th, 2006, the FDA
issued an advisory concluding that no sound scientific studies have supported medical use of smoked
marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data support the safety or efficacy of
smoked marijuana for general medical use.
A number of states have passed voter referenda or legislative actions making smoked marijuana available for
a variety of medical conditions upon a doctor's recommendation. According to the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA), these measures are inconsistent with efforts to ensure medications undergo the
rigorous scientific scrutiny of the FDA approval process and are proven safe and effective under the standards
of the FD&C Act.
While smoking marijuana may allow patients to temporarily feel better, the medical community makes an
important distinction between inebriation and the controlled delivery of pure pharmaceutical medication.
The raw (leaf ) form of marijuana contains a complex mixture of compounds in uncertain concentrations, the
majority of which have unknown pharmacological effects.
The Institute of Medicine (IOM) has concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for any long-term
medical use, and a subsequent IOM report declared that, “marijuana is not modern medicine.” Additionally, the
American Medical Association, the National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the National
Multiple Sclerosis Society do not support the smoked form of marijuana as medicine.
issued an advisory concluding that no sound scientific studies have supported medical use of smoked
marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data support the safety or efficacy of
smoked marijuana for general medical use.
A number of states have passed voter referenda or legislative actions making smoked marijuana available for
a variety of medical conditions upon a doctor's recommendation. According to the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA), these measures are inconsistent with efforts to ensure medications undergo the
rigorous scientific scrutiny of the FDA approval process and are proven safe and effective under the standards
of the FD&C Act.
While smoking marijuana may allow patients to temporarily feel better, the medical community makes an
important distinction between inebriation and the controlled delivery of pure pharmaceutical medication.
The raw (leaf ) form of marijuana contains a complex mixture of compounds in uncertain concentrations, the
majority of which have unknown pharmacological effects.
The Institute of Medicine (IOM) has concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for any long-term
medical use, and a subsequent IOM report declared that, “marijuana is not modern medicine.” Additionally, the
American Medical Association, the National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the National
Multiple Sclerosis Society do not support the smoked form of marijuana as medicine.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html
Quote:
# The DEA recognizes the importance of listening to science. That's why the DEA has registered seven research initiatives to continue researching the effects of smoked marijuana as medicine. For example, under one program established by the State of California, researchers are studying the potential use of marijuana and its ingredients on conditions such as multiple sclerosis and pain. At this time, however, neither the medical community nor the scientific community has found sufficient data to conclude that smoked marijuana is the best approach to dealing with these important medical issues.
# The most comprehensive, scientifically rigorous review of studies of smoked marijuana was conducted by the Institute of Medicine, an organization chartered by the National Academy of Sciences. In a report released in 1999, the Institute did not recommend the use of smoked marijuana, but did conclude that active ingredients in marijuana could be isolated and developed into a variety of pharmaceuticals, such as Marinol.
# The most comprehensive, scientifically rigorous review of studies of smoked marijuana was conducted by the Institute of Medicine, an organization chartered by the National Academy of Sciences. In a report released in 1999, the Institute did not recommend the use of smoked marijuana, but did conclude that active ingredients in marijuana could be isolated and developed into a variety of pharmaceuticals, such as Marinol.
15 Oct 2009, 1:49 pm
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