8 Hutaree militia members ordered locked up

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02 Apr 2010, 7:44 pm

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A federal magistrate judge today locked up eight members of a Lenawee County militia group pending trial on charges that they conspired to overthrow the U.S. government.

“It is difficult to underestimate the dangers inherent in the crimes charged in this case,” Magistrate Judge Donald Scheer said from his bench in the U.S. District courthouse in Detroit in ordering the seven men and one woman to remain in jail for what their lawyers said could be a two-year wait until trial.

The lawyers, who immediately appealed Scheer’s decision to U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts, said the defendants pose no risk to the public and are not a flight risk to avoid trial. The lawyers said Roberts likely would hear the appeal next week.

But Scheer said they did pose a risk, adding he could find no combination of bond restrictions that would guarantee that they would appear for trial and not pose a risk to the community.

The defendants are: David Stone Sr., 45; his wife, Tina Stone, 44, and his son, Joshua Stone, all of Clayton; Stone’s other son, David Stone Jr., 19 of Adrian; Joshua Clough, 28 of Blissfield; Michael Meeks, 40, of Manchester; Kristopher Sickles, 27, of Sandusky, Ohio, and Jacob Ward, 33 of Huron, Ohio. A ninth defendant, Thomas Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind., was arrested there and is awaiting transfer to Michigan for trial.

A grand jury indictment says the defendants, led by David Stone Sr., belonged to the Hutaree, a Christian militia, and planned to attack local, state and federal law enforcement officers. Prosecutors said they held training exercises and exploded bombs to prepare for battle.

The indictment said they planned to kill a police officer and attack members of the officer’s funeral procession.

The defendants pleaded not guilty and their lawyers disputed the charges during a two-day detention hearing Wednesday and Thursday. The lawyers told Scheer the defendants voiced unfavorable views of the government, but never acted on those beliefs and should be released on bond pending trial, which could be two years off.

Federal prosecutors said they are a threat and should be detained. Agents started arresting them in raids last weekend, saying they were planning an operation for April.

All nine are charged with seditious conspiracy, attempt to use weapons of mass destruction, possession of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence. David Stone Sr. and David Stone Jr. also are charged with teaching/demonstrating use of explosive materials.’

The most serious charge, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. Seditious conspiracy and teaching/demonstrating the use of explosive materials carry a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. The firearm possession charges carries a mandatory 5-year prison term

This is in my area. I'm quite shocked


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03 Apr 2010, 4:53 pm

Don't be shocked stuff like this happens in Michigan on a surprising regualar basis,
the SDS, Students for a Democratic Society (1960 organization) was founded in our area, and their seminal paper known as the Port Huron Statement was drafted at Lakeport state park, one of their factions Weather Underground did things the Hutaree only fantasize about, by conducting actual terror attacks on the US from 1969- 1981. Terry Nichols is a Michigander, I actually know people who know Terry Nichols.


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12 Apr 2010, 5:07 am

Not looking to good for the FBI.

The FBI informant was the one teaching and giving them explosives. Entrapment. Just like at Ruby Ridge.

Good part is they did not have to kill everyone to make an arrest, ala Waco.



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14 Apr 2010, 12:20 am

Do you remember the bomb in the World Trade Center years before 9/11?

An FBI plant joined the group and even supplied the explosives to do the job.

Whenever I hear "terrorist group arrested" I look for the plant who set the poor dumb buggers up and then turned them in.



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14 Apr 2010, 1:55 am

budgenator wrote:
Don't be shocked stuff like this happens in Michigan on a surprising regualar basis,
the SDS, Students for a Democratic Society (1960 organization) was founded in our area, and their seminal paper known as the Port Huron Statement was drafted at Lakeport state park, one of their factions Weather Underground did things the Hutaree only fantasize about, by conducting actual terror attacks on the US from 1969- 1981. Terry Nichols is a Michigander, I actually know people who know Terry Nichols.


Speaking of Weather Underground, you remember Bill Ayers? Well, he was scheduled to speak at an event at UW until the university president canceled his invitation. Whats more, a university group decided to raise money to allow him to speak at one of their club events, apparently in protest over the university's decision. Well, the university sent out a memo to all of our clubs and organizations, stating that Ayers was not welcome anywhere on campus and that any organization that tried to host him would be disbanded.

It's true that he did some nasty s**t while he was a Weatherman, but from a personal standpoint, the way things are going in America I really can't blame him. We could use a good revolt to teach the government it's place, to remind it that in a democracy the PEOPLE control the government, not vice versa. Of course I don't advocate killing people to do it, but such tragedy is usually unavoidable, and so I would find it justified as long as minimal casualties are taken into consideration.

Oh, and as far as Ayers goes, he's still coming to Laramie to speak at an off-campus venue. The reason he was disinvited in the first place was because of all the nasty hate mail the university received over it. Personally I think the admins need to grow some cajones, cause they talk all big about preserving constitutional freedom and academic equality, but then ban someone from speaking at a forum on education just because he had a bit of a checkered past. Next time I see president Buchanan I'm going to tell him that he can go jump in an infinite portal loop, cause that was seriously a low move.


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