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27 Apr 2010, 2:52 pm

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27 Apr 2010, 4:01 pm

meh, this type of stuff happens fairly often. and one reason I think people may have done nothing would have been if they know who did it and did not want to risk their lives reporting it. A game of survival, life is.

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27 Apr 2010, 5:09 pm

This kind of thing does happen, but if I ever get to the point where I shrug it off as unimportant, I believe I'll have lost an essential part of my humanity. The perpetrator had already gone, there was no danger in helping this man.This was not an issue of survival. The person who took a pic with his camera phone could have taken a moment to call 911.I read a comment on news site that that was how New Yorkers were and the dying man was a New Yorker, so oh well. He was a Guatemalan immigrant and I imagine not helping the woman who was attacked was inconceivable to him. My view may be considered naive, but thing for a moment about how life would be for all of us if basic impulses of altruism didn't exist. I don't think we would have survived as a species in the first place.

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27 Apr 2010, 8:05 pm

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

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27 Apr 2010, 10:26 pm

pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

this is pretty much what i have done to animals already. The other day a deer was dragging itself along the road, is back and legs wer fractrued to hell and it was bleeding heavily. Now as for human beings, they can suffer simply because I loathe humanity.

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28 Apr 2010, 2:23 am

pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

Instead of trying to save his life, you'd just assume he was going to die and kill him?

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28 Apr 2010, 2:33 am

people should remember poor kitty genovese.

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28 Apr 2010, 6:19 am

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If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

You are aware that is murder? A person's life is his, and it is not your place to shorten it by a microsecond out of a misplaced sense of kindness. There are only three circumstances that justify intentional homicide: self defense, war and killing with the permission of the person being killed (so called "mercy killing").

Your kindness does not make you God, to take life by your will.

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28 Apr 2010, 10:31 am

auntblabby wrote:

people should remember poor kitty genovese.

The thing is, it would take someone with Asperger's
syndrome to make the first call to city police. Otherwise,
everyone presumes that somebody else has "got it"
until we all find out that nobody "got it." (At least that's
how I remember the story of how Kitty Genovese was
murdered.)

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28 Apr 2010, 10:47 pm

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pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

If you want to get into pointless semantics I could easily say the following: You are pretty much the 'god' of your own lives, meaning you have choices to make, and you have to live with said choices.

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30 Apr 2010, 9:34 am

DemonAbyss10 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

We all have the right of suicide.

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30 Apr 2010, 9:57 am

I see Ruveyn is a follower of Nozick. <.< Basicly said that the state couldn't force you to do whatever you wanted. Heh. Sure, you can even ride your bike without a helmet, prostitute yourself, etc.

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30 Apr 2010, 10:36 am

ruveyn wrote:

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ruveyn wrote:

pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

We all have the right of suicide.

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Suicide is just one of those choices someone can make.

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30 Apr 2010, 12:57 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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ruveyn wrote:

pezar wrote:

If I had my knife with me, I would have finished him off, then kept walking. No reason for somebody to suffer. But I never call the cops.

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We all have the right of suicide.
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Sartresue wrote:

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If taking one's life is a right, it is not always clear if the person discovered by a bystander is actually trying to kill him/her self. Perhaps this is why 25 of New York's righteous citizens chose to walk by, perhaps concluding the man on the sidewalk had stabbed himself, and did not want to commit the sin of interference.

Since I am not a mindreader, and if I discover someone who's life might end by the state in which I find him/her, I will always do my best to assist in order to prevent bodily harm.

Looks Like my post got mixed up with R's, so I corrected it.

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30 Apr 2010, 1:24 pm

Wow. God bless her. What an example she set for her kids.

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