Louisiana & oil spill

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I'm not sure you guys know about the oil leak in the golf but as someone who lives In Louisiana; this is severely damaging here. A large amount of our economy was based on oil & sea-food compared to other sates. Lots of shrimpers/fishermen are out of work rite now. Some of em worked offshore when they weren't fishing. Obama's attitude is that they can collect unemployment but a lot of em wer self-employed or only worked offshore certain times of the year when they weren't fishing so they may not eligible for unemployment. There are some state & local programs in place to temporarily help em out but we wer having major financial problems before this so this means that other programs will have to have their budgets slashed even more. BP was ordered to pay a fine but has not paid yet & the money could really help out our local & state governments rite now. There is a BP building down the road from my house & that parking lot is full of people & cars. How the hell can BP be stopping the leak or cleaning up there dammed spill if they are hiding in an office We've had a dredging plan weeks before the oil hit our cost but the federal government did NOT approve it till like a week ago when it would of been much more effective before the oil reached us. We have also requested lots of other supplies that we did not receive till recently. I've also smelled oil outside a couple days at times & some people around here are having bad sinus problems & I'm wondering if this oil could be effecting people's health.
I'm not sure what's going to happen here with our economy but I'm sure things will only get worse for quite some time. The good thing thou is that my parents will probably not be pressuring me to get a job due to rising unemployment.

I know this is kind of a rant post but I'm hoping to raise awareness & start a serious discussion about things
I will end this rant with a Steve Goodie song/vid about it called "Black Water" some people mite find it offensive but I'm really glad Steve did this

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Z9W59Z5ZY[/youtube]

What BP did was despicable. I was in Florida a couple weeks ago, and that's all they talked about on the local news. It gave me more of a perspective of how this would affect people in Florida. If this oil spill continues, the outlook for Florida or any other gulf states is not very good. The states surrounding the gulf depend on it for a large portion of their economy. The beaches on the gulf, tourism, food, and others. I'd imagine the situation in Louisiana is just terrible right now. Especially judging by what I see on the news. BP had really better get their asses in gear before it's too late.

It IS too late and BP can be counted on to sit on their thumbs and spray chemical dispersants which will make matters far worse in the long run but hide them for now.

It is over. Just what has leaked will end fishing for decades.

The rate of flow keeps getting upgraded, lately 1.8 million gallons day, which puts 100 million gallons in the Gulf now, and more flowing.

Government reporting has been what a BP press agent would say. It went from no oil on shore, to 12 miles of coast, to 125, and now hitting Texas and Alabama. This is not a surface sheen, it is in globs all the way to the bottom.

The dispersent used will get in the life chain, and that alone will render all Gulf, and perhaps East Coast fish, unsellable. It is being compared to Mecury, DDT, and Dioxen.

The Western Gulf is fed by the muddy Mississippi, brown water from Alabama to Texas. The Eastern Gulf is very different, clear water and corals. and the wall of oil is just offshore in Florida. It is just a matter of days till Western Florida is fully coated in oil.

Everything that leaves the Gulf follows the Gulf Stream, through Key West, and up the East Coast of Florida to Cape Hatteras where it heads offshore. This flow will continue for years.

Oil was only a small part of our economy. We got the jobs working the rigs, building them, but the money went to companies like BP.

Our locally owned economy that provided the most jobs, and profits that stayed with the people, were fisheries and tourism.

Our National and State Leadership all have bulging and oil soaked pockets. BP was Obama's largest doner, he wanted more offshore drilling, and the prize was Florida.

They would do anything to open the Eastern Gulf, to overcome that clean water and corals group that was blocking them.

What if there was an accident? What if fishing and tourism died?

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If Iztoc1 did not kill the Gulf than neither will this one. I will bet the recovery will take five years or less. The Alaskan site of the Exxon Valdez mishap was not killed forever and neither will be the Gulf.

ruveyn

Would you like to buy a shrimp boat? Almost new, $640,000, $6,000 a month, and in only five years you will make a killing in the Gulf.

Buy BP shares. There at bargain prices now.

Sounds like a plan.

People will be financially damaged and they should be compensated by BP and associated companies. Being damaged is not the same thing as the ecology of the Gulf fishing industry utterly destroyed. It will come back over a period of time.

The eco-whiners would have us believe every fish, shrimp, prawn and crab in the Gulf will died and be gone forever. This is not going to happen. It did not happen after Ixtoc1, it didn't happen in Alaska and it won't happen now.

ruveyn

I know lots of other places are having major problems but I can only speak for Louisiana sense that's where I'm at. You guys are more than welcome to talk about other areas being affected here. I hear Florida has/had some very pretty beaches & some scuba divers liked seeing coral reefs & things. I'm betting Florida won't be nearly as attractive for quite some time. I'm sure things will recover for Louisiana, Florida & other places but I highly doubt they will be the same as they wer before the spill. Things will be different. The wildlife probably won't die out but they may move to other places & have different patterns so in a sense things probably won't recover.

As for taking responsibility goes; when this leak 1st started it seemed that people wer hoping BP would handle things witch so for as not been going well at all. The federal gov should of stepped in in the very beginning & started preparing for the worst. It may also not be directly BPs fault either because drilling was pushed heavily & regulations got lacked during the Bush administration. The government has been very negligent. I also highly doubt that the gov will hold BP financial responsible for the entire cost of the clean-up & other related things. When the banking, mortgage lenders & auto industries wer having problems because their executives gave themselves huge raises; the gov gave em bail-outs instead of forcing the bigwigs to fork over that money. It seems very likely that BPs executives will simple step down & take the money with em

With regard to capping the leak, the US government was not capable of doing so; they had neither the equipment nor the personnel to fix what is effectively a new and complex problem. Perhaps if the leak was on land or in shallow water they'd be able to handle it, but with the leak being where it is they were forced to rely on the drilling companies to deal with it.

That's not to say they couldn't have handled the protection and cleanup of oil on the surface and on the beaches better, just that they did not have the option to step in and handle the actual leak themselves.

It does appear that BP have consistently underestimated, or even outright lied about, the rate at which oil is leaking, and that is something they should be held accountable for.

(Incidentally, one of my brothers works for BP as a ship's engineer. Part of his pay is in shares. ^^)

Isn't the gov in charge of the NASSA space program We can send ships to the moon & back with people so why cant we send em under water to fix it I know it's not quit that simple but it seems like they could of thought & tried something.

In regards to your brother; I don't think the gov will let BP's stock go down considering they bailed out other companies. BP is to big to fail

Sending a man rated rocket propelled vehicle into space and capping a blown well are two very different tasks. In addition to which, the U.S. government has spent billions of $$ since 1945 to master and surpass German rocket technology. It has made no such effort in developing safe underwater drilling technology. The drilling technology has been exclusively in the hands of the oil extraction companies. It is their business. Do you think the U.S. should spend an equal amount of money and time to learn how to drill oil safely under the ocean?

It would be better to spend the money in developing modular fission reactors and paving the U.S. from coast to coast is nuclear fission generating stations. Then we would not have to drill under the ocean to the the oil we need (oil to be used for lubrication and as a feed stock for building large polymers).


ruveyn

I think the gov should be the ones drilling for oil instead of having corporations do it. The gov mite could make some money off of it & oil products would cost less. Louisiana has to pay more for oil than states that have to import it. it's actually cheaper for other states to get oil from us than it is for us to get it. I think the gov should handle oil

Anything the government touches turns brown and smelly. Government is by and large technically incompetent. You suggestion would lead to gasoline at ten dollars a gallon within five years. No thank you.

ruveyn

Things that affect everyone should be private, like War and Energy,

Er, it's not eco whining when an ecosystem is on the verge of collapse. The Herring still hasn't returned to Prince William Sound and the Exxon Valdez ran hard ground in March of 1989. Unless those filtering machines developed by Kevin Costner and his brother Dan perform miracles, the gulf coast and fishing could be compromised for quite some time. All you have to do is dig a little under the sand off a beach in Prince William Sound and there's hydrocarbons all over your hand.
It is a catastrophic disaster for the region, and BP still hasn't capped the Deepwater Horizon.