Muslim girl plans to sue Disney.

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My bad, I should've elaborated on that. I meant the dude didn't wanna wear a helmet while riding a bike cuz he wanted to wear his turban. That's like going to Europe and bitching about people sun tanning at the beach naked.

Did you see the rest of her uniform? A waist-coat. Like the other woman cited as an example. It is in NO WAY a negative image. Its not as if she demanded that her Minnie Mouse costume involve a Burkha.

Helmet regulations do vary quite a lot by nation though. Hell, there are many places where health and safety regs are virtually non-existent. (India for example.) And a turban does provide quite a good amount of protection to the head. Wrap three or four towels around your head and headbutt a wall. Then try it without the towels. Then let me know which one made you forget your name.

If memory serves, it was a police bike the chap was riding. They are very well trained as bikers go, so if anyone could get away with riding a bike sans skid-lid in relative safety, a copper could.

Mostly though, this is what happens when modern innovations meet an older system. No doubt eventually a compromise will be reached.

Well uniforms are kind of meant to be uniform, I don't see how your point counters any of mine. They are meant to mark her place in the whole system they have set up the head covering interferes with that?

Well uniforms are kind of meant to be uniform, I don't see how your point counters any of mine. They are meant to mark her place in the whole system they have set up the head covering interferes with that?[/quote

Watch the OP video. Seems to me that the scarf in no way detracts from her general appearance, nor have I seen anywhere that it detracts from her abilities or job-skills. It doesn't appear to make her any less "uniform" or less identifiable as an employee.

I'm also unable to find any customer complaints about her or her performance, so it appears to not have affected that. She isn't actually acting a a Disney "character" per se, despite what Disney choose to call their employees. (That is to say that her "character" .. Hostess #12345 has never appeared in any Disney film.)

It occurs to me that if someone who had had radiotherapy or chemotherapy and chose to wear a headscarf to cover the resultant hairlessness (or any other condition causing such), I doubt that Disney et al would be concerned that her head-covering might cause disruption or negative image, even though the visual effect would be much the same.

Having said that, the word on the net is that Disney don't hire disable staff because it might spoil their family image. I rather hope that isn't true, but somehow I have the feeling it is.

Well I don't see any reason why you would have access to complaints about a specific employee. Define general appearance, more especially in relation to Uniforms, which is too say how can you make a statement about her general appearance according to a uniform without observing the environment where she works as a whole?

EDIT: And even then how does your opinion reflect on what other demographics or even other people might view as out of place?

She is in costume even if she is not a character she is meant to blend into the background, so people know what is part of the show and what is not.

Why would you think a cancer patient wouldn't be distracting in a Disney setting? They would likely either transfer her somewhere out of the eyes of the customers or fire her if she found that lacking, although they might also consider temporarily retiring her to avoid the bad publicity which comes from firing someone so vulnerable.

And its likely true about the whole them not hiring disabled people, and they do have a valid point it might put a downer on some peoples enjoyment. Disney world is not meant to be a facsimile(that the right word?) of reality.

Why do you think I meant I could access specific complaints? I'm saying that there has been no comment in the media to the effect that she cannot perform her job properly, and that no complaints about her performance have been mentioned or brought to light.

I'm using the video posted in the OP as the basis for determining the kind of uniforms Disney employees wear. She does not look out of place in comparison to other Disney staff in similar roles. Her wearing an otherwise unremarkable headscarf does not make her "stand out" or create a confusing image where you might think she was "part of a show" or animatronic or a member of the public. Watch the video. Google some staff. She REALLY doesn't look much different to anyone else. And anyone who is busy staring at the housekeeping and menial staff is probably missing the point of Disney all-together. "Oh look honey, that girl is wearing a plain white scarf on her head. How freakishly out of place next to the Giant DUCK with no pants on and the dog who can't talk being walked by a dog who can, and all those robot pirates."

It speaks volumes about society that the appearance of a "disabled person" somewhere like Disney would be a downer. Best to keep them out back eh? Where they won't be seen by the wholesome folks...But what about disabled visitors? Those poor little kids in the wheel-chairs? Won't they bring everyone down as well? Maybe they should be kept safely to one side, perhaps behind some sort of barrier.... or just not let in at all. Repellent.

And just because it needs repeating.. its only a scarf.

Chances are, most of the people there are too busy enjoying the attractions to care about what the girl behind the hotel desk is wearing.

Also, I imagine the whole "magic of Disney" thing would soon wear off after a few hours of negotiating heavy crowds and trying to find your way around the place. Not to mention the jet lag, finding your luggage, finding the hotel... sounds like an absolute nightmare!

Its only a scarf, so she can take it off.

If she was smartly attired, helpful and skilled then she would no doubt be an outstanding help. I've not heard anything counter to that. People tend to remember rude and obstructive staff, and it is them that spoil a holiday. I've been on holidays where the beggars on the beach were more polite than the tour reps, and more helpful.

Its only a scarf, so people shouldn't be demanding she gets deported, that her ways are Sharia in action, that we are all doomed to enforced beard-wearing, its an ISLAM INVASION and all the other ridiculous s**t people have said about a length of fabric worn around the head. They shouldn't be claiming its a negative image, or a sign of bondage and oppression or any of the other rubbish that has been said. Its a matter of scale.

Lack of presence of the media doesn't really mean there are no complaints.



I don't think the video is inside Disney land, even if it is I don't think it supplies that much of a view anyways. It basically only shows the woman out of context. Even if it does not stand out as confusing it could still be argued as unprofessional to show religious tendencies in a work environment.



*shrug* not something I came to argue against or for.



No if it was just a scarf she would be told to take it off and thats that. It is however a religious symbol so there is actually justified conflict. If it was just a scarf you would have no argument whatsoever.

And I don't remember anyone proposing to deport this woman, that would be a bit disappointing to see from an American.

If there were any vexatious complaints about her abilities I'm sure that they would have been dug up and thrown into the argument by now.

And yes, people in this thread have been saying if she doesn't conform she should "go home."

If its only a scarf, then why is she planning to sue Disney? You should try looking at things from both sides for a change. I think most people wouldn't have a problem with her working in Disney, just because she's a Muslim, I wouldn't. But if its at the point where she "has" to wear the scarf, then its not just a scarf is it? So either Disney has to change its policies for the lady, or the lady changes her's so she can work at Disney. Why is it so unreasonable in your eyes for her to change her policies, but not for Disney to change theirs?

Your certainty doesn't really mean anything.



Well then they should have thought about why their country was founded before they spoke.

ON the first comment: Would you like me to rephrase it so that semantics are not an issue? If there were vexatious complaints about this woman's work, then they would definitely have surfaced. I'm personally sure of this fact, and endless previous arguments about almost everything on every subject of any similarity support me in believing this. If her work were being affected by her head-wear in any meaningful manner then Disney themselves would have stated as much. "Her headdress keeps falling in the soup/gets caught in the Pirates cogs/whatever." If they had received any direct complaints from customers about her head-dress, they would have mentioned the fact to support their case.

But I do agree on your second point.