Can we get an apology Mr Obama? Gulf Oil Spill Findings.
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All those doubters and naysayers and blame-throwers out there can bite it.
Will we in the UK be getting an apology for all the grief that wasn't our doing? Ex-Amoco and Haliburton, all the other AMERICANS who screwed up. Wouldn't it be the RIGHT thing to do to apologise to "British Petroleum"?
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I don't think an apology would be enough. The spill has probably f****d up the ecosystem in that part of the sea and it doesn't just magically sort itself out, it's going to take a hell of a long time for the life under there to adapt to the devastation. I'm sure large quantities of fish have been wiped out, and birds and crustaceans.
The individuals who made the mistake and let the pipes leak can say sorry and apologise as many times as they want it wouldn't make a difference.
I don't think Obama is the one who needs to apologise though, I don't blame him for it at all, there's not much he could do about it and he wasn't the person who caused the leak.
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The individuals who made the mistake and let the pipes leak can say sorry and apologise as many times as they want it wouldn't make a difference.
I don't think Obama is the one who needs to apologise though, I don't blame him for it at all, there's not much he could do about it and he wasn't the person who caused the leak.
I'm not talking about apologising for breaking the oil rig or making the mess. I'm talking about Mr Obama apologising to the UK for hate-mongering and blaming imaginary British companies for an oil spill that is increasingly being proven to be a mostly American screw up. There was plenty of noise in these parts about how bleeding evil the British were when everyone thought it was BP to blame. Noticeably its ever so quiet now that it turns out it was predominantly the American part of the operation that screwed up. Where is the public Presidential vilification of Haliburton, I wonder?
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You're assuming that Obama isn't so full of himself that he can admit he was wrong. Though BP does deserve some of the blame, the Government's incompetitence was also to blame here as well.
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The individuals who made the mistake and let the pipes leak can say sorry and apologise as many times as they want it wouldn't make a difference.
I don't think Obama is the one who needs to apologise though, I don't blame him for it at all, there's not much he could do about it and he wasn't the person who caused the leak.
I'm not talking about apologising for breaking the oil rig or making the mess. I'm talking about Mr Obama apologising to the UK for hate-mongering and blaming imaginary British companies for an oil spill that is increasingly being proven to be a mostly American screw up. There was plenty of noise in these parts about how bleeding evil the British were when everyone thought it was BP to blame. Noticeably its ever so quiet now that it turns out it was predominantly the American part of the operation that screwed up. Where is the public Presidential vilification of Haliburton, I wonder?
Whoever's to blame, they screwed up. That's for certain.
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Coincidence on 34th street.
Oh the White House also altered the findings of experts to say something that supported the moratorium.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/10/i ... oratorium/
And they source politico on the story.
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All those doubters and naysayers and blame-throwers out there can bite it.
Will we in the UK be getting an apology for all the grief that wasn't our doing? Ex-Amoco and Haliburton, all the other AMERICANS who screwed up. Wouldn't it be the RIGHT thing to do to apologise to "British Petroleum"?
Hear! Hear!
Probably about as much as standing on the throat of British Petroleum (sic) did. Threats and bluster didn't stop one iota of oil leaking from that well, but Mr Obama saw fit to open his mouth anyway.
Still waiting for an apology. I now its futile to expect humility or admission of guilt from an American leader, but hey, we live in hope.
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No apology here.
Our fisheries are a mess, no one wants to buy Gulf fish, lost 80% of oysters, and all the spawn, same for the crabs. Deep water reefs have died, and we hardly know how they live, but they are important.
Maybe it will come back in a decade, or hundreds of years. .
Our other industry is tourism, A pattern of activity that once changed, stays changed,
Limited payout, with a lot going to governments for lost taxes, not the people who suffered the loss.
The hired hands still work for the boss. It was not the cement Haliburton used, it was twenty two plugs being cut to seven.
Still nothing about the blowout preventer that had not gotten it's monthly test in sixteen months, and why Minerals Management failed to do it's job.
Everything BP touches seems to blow up. Rigs, Refineries, Pipelines, a clear pattern of making the whole industry look bad.
They may have paid the bribe and bought the whitewash, but we do not believe Congress, we just fired a bunch, and plan on suing the rest.
That rig with 700,000 gallons of diesel is still laying a mile down in the Gulf. The damage is not over.
A million barrels of oil does not just vanish,
The hearing was a fix on the fine, it is much higher where negliagence is proven. Cut the fine and we will up the donations.
Buying whores in Washington is another offence.
Louisiana has just sued the Corp of Engineers over the Kartina damage. They were always held above the law, but not in cases of shear stupitity.
Congress carries no weight, that was a press conferance.
Wait till it gets to Court, where BS leads directly to prison.
Minerals Management, and their employer, are going to be put on the stand and made to tell the truth.
Why did you inspect all other rigs once a month, but not the one that blew up? For sixteen months?
Was it because the blowout preventer was known to be dead for sixteen months?
Our fisheries are a mess, no one wants to buy Gulf fish, lost 80% of oysters, and all the spawn, same for the crabs. Deep water reefs have died, and we hardly know how they live, but they are important.
Maybe it will come back in a decade, or hundreds of years. .
Our other industry is tourism, A pattern of activity that once changed, stays changed,
Limited payout, with a lot going to governments for lost taxes, not the people who suffered the loss.
The hired hands still work for the boss. It was not the cement Haliburton used, it was twenty two plugs being cut to seven.
Still nothing about the blowout preventer that had not gotten it's monthly test in sixteen months, and why Minerals Management failed to do it's job.
Everything BP touches seems to blow up. Rigs, Refineries, Pipelines, a clear pattern of making the whole industry look bad.
They may have paid the bribe and bought the whitewash, but we do not believe Congress, we just fired a bunch, and plan on suing the rest.
That rig with 700,000 gallons of diesel is still laying a mile down in the Gulf. The damage is not over.
A million barrels of oil does not just vanish,
The hearing was a fix on the fine, it is much higher where negliagence is proven. Cut the fine and we will up the donations.
Buying whores in Washington is another offence.
Louisiana has just sued the Corp of Engineers over the Kartina damage. They were always held above the law, but not in cases of shear stupitity.
Congress carries no weight, that was a press conferance.
Wait till it gets to Court, where BS leads directly to prison.
Minerals Management, and their employer, are going to be put on the stand and made to tell the truth.
Why did you inspect all other rigs once a month, but not the one that blew up? For sixteen months?
Was it because the blowout preventer was known to be dead for sixteen months?
So you believe your glorious leaders when they say it WAS "British Petroleum" that f****d the gulf, but you DON'T believe them when they admit it wasn't? Face it, Yank crews and yank contractors screwed up. I wager that if an American company had hired British contractors for a job and it went wrong their hearts wouldn't beat once before they crucified them, and threw the remains to the wolves. Still, its been evident for a long time that its one rule for America and a different rule for everyone else.
Still waiting on this apology, Mr Obama.
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A hearing where the quilty parties say it was not their fault is expected.
Our view is anything can be bought in Washington, and it seems at Minerals Management.
It was Americans who took the bribes, and BP who paid them.
Safety inspections were not performed as demanded by law, for sixteen months.
That is what lead to eleven dead and a million barrel spill.
The Courts are not so one sided.
It still comes down to who gave the orders, and that was BP.
Our view is anything can be bought in Washington, and it seems at Minerals Management.
It was Americans who took the bribes, and BP who paid them.
Safety inspections were not performed as demanded by law, for sixteen months.
That is what lead to eleven dead and a million barrel spill.
The Courts are not so one sided.
It still comes down to who gave the orders, and that was BP.
The defense of "I was only following orders." went out at Nuremburg. American companies and American employees were at fault.
Still waiting.
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"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart,
that you can't take part" [Mario Savo, 1964]
Our view is anything can be bought in Washington, and it seems at Minerals Management.
It was Americans who took the bribes, and BP who paid them.
Safety inspections were not performed as demanded by law, for sixteen months.
That is what lead to eleven dead and a million barrel spill.
The Courts are not so one sided.
It still comes down to who gave the orders, and that was BP.
The defense of "I was only following orders." went out at Nuremburg. American companies and American employees were at fault.
Still waiting.
He won't apologize just like he hasn't apologized to the individuals whom his staff editted a report after they had signed it so that it said there should be a drilling moratorium which was something the researchers thought was a bad idea.
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I am american, but I know my country well enough to know...it was probably done on purpose so they can drill without those pesky enviromentalists
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