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18 Nov 2010, 1:38 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101117/ap_ ... bill_nye_4

Bill Nye was giving a speech a collapsed. Says he was conscious again after about 10 seconds. Hope he's all right and it's nothing serious.



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18 Nov 2010, 3:03 pm

Me too. He's awesome.



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18 Nov 2010, 3:28 pm

I hope he's doing okay. He's a really cool guy.


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18 Nov 2010, 4:06 pm

Hope he's well.

I understand that, rather pathetically, the audience of college kids just tweeted like mad when he collapsed. Nobody went to actually help him. :(



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19 Nov 2010, 12:12 am

yeah the real story is how those college kids reacted. it is just the sign of the times. not a usc thing or anything.
another story of a human being experiencing a medical complication and people just start staring at a screen and not offering help.the day has come for the new generation to actually believe it is abnormal to not be f*****g tweeting or texting when events like these happen. why the f**k is it so god damn important to text in a situation like this? an individual is worth more than your f*****g "smart"phone, so shove your phone up your ass, help the individual, and remember that you're f*****g ret*d. thank you.



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19 Nov 2010, 1:41 pm

Oh, I hope he is ok. I remember watching Nill Nye the Science Guy in school when I was growing up. He's awesome.

In reference to people Tweeting rather than helping, it's completely backwards, yet totally believeable. I was watching the local news the other day and there was a story about a 60-something year old lady who was beaten up by four teenaged boys and had her purse stolen in a parking lot. they had surveilence footage. This poor lady is going to put her groceries away, a car pulls up and a guy jumps out and tries to grab her purse. The woman was fighting back and the guy hit her several times and dragged her a few feet with the car before she let go. You can see a lot of other people in the parking lot watchign this all happen. Perhaps they were too scared of becoming victims themselves which may be why no one went running to help. BUT after these jerks drove off, the woman was on her hands and knees, disoriented. I see these one guy on the video walking up to her really quickly. I thought he was going to help her up, but he literally walked right in front of her and continued to the stores entrance. The other people in the parking lot didn't help her either. Just went about their day. It's sad.

...not the same as Tweeting, but another example of the world we live in. If someone needs help, you don't just stand around or grab your mobil device to start recording video or texting away. Not good karma, people.

Anywho, hope all is well with Mr Nye.



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19 Nov 2010, 2:46 pm

NathansMommy wrote:
Oh, I hope he is ok. I remember watching Nill Nye the Science Guy in school when I was growing up. He's awesome.

In reference to people Tweeting rather than helping, it's completely backwards, yet totally believeable. I was watching the local news the other day and there was a story about a 60-something year old lady who was beaten up by four teenaged boys and had her purse stolen in a parking lot. they had surveilence footage. This poor lady is going to put her groceries away, a car pulls up and a guy jumps out and tries to grab her purse. The woman was fighting back and the guy hit her several times and dragged her a few feet with the car before she let go. You can see a lot of other people in the parking lot watchign this all happen. Perhaps they were too scared of becoming victims themselves which may be why no one went running to help. BUT after these jerks drove off, the woman was on her hands and knees, disoriented. I see these one guy on the video walking up to her really quickly. I thought he was going to help her up, but he literally walked right in front of her and continued to the stores entrance. The other people in the parking lot didn't help her either. Just went about their day. It's sad.

...not the same as Tweeting, but another example of the world we live in. If someone needs help, you don't just stand around or grab your mobil device to start recording video or texting away. Not good karma, people.

Anywho, hope all is well with Mr Nye.


Diffusion of responsibility it sounds like, when people expect someone else to help and everyone ends up waiting for someone else to step in.
Also, if it's in an inner city area where there's more people around less people help out. I was watching a documentary made by Desmond Morris and for an experiment he got a man to lie on the floor like he'd collapsed in the middle of the city, and for aaaaaaaages people just walked past like he wasn't there. Then the same man lay down in the middle of a smallish village, he had help nearly straight away.
It's not really a result of modern times or whatever, because that documentary is from 1994 and there was no twitter or camera phones then. And another example of diffusion of responsibility was in the 1940s a woman got stabbed repeatedly by a man and loads of people in the flats surrounding them did nothing about it despite knowing what was happening. I don't blame twitter at all.


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19 Nov 2010, 3:06 pm

MONKEY wrote:
[...Diffusion of responsibility it sounds like, when people expect someone else to help and everyone ends up waiting for someone else to step in.
Also, if it's in an inner city area where there's more people around less people help out. I was watching a documentary made by Desmond Morris and for an experiment he got a man to lie on the floor like he'd collapsed in the middle of the city, and for aaaaaaaages people just walked past like he wasn't there. Then the same man lay down in the middle of a smallish village, he had help nearly straight away.
It's not really a result of modern times or whatever, because that documentary is from 1994 and there was no twitter or camera phones then. And another example of diffusion of responsibility was in the 1940s a woman got stabbed repeatedly by a man and loads of people in the flats surrounding them did nothing about it despite knowing what was happening. I don't blame twitter at all.


It does sound like diffusion of responsibility rather than people too into their cell phones and gadgets. Like you say, that's nothing new. In the mid 80's (can't remember the year) I got beat up in a drugstore by a mentally ill man. Nobody helped. They just stood there and watched while I yelled and tried to fend him off (he was ranting nonsense during the attack which is why I think mentally ill). He almost succeeded in dragging me out of the store by my hair. Then suddenly one man grabbed him by the arm and within seconds everyone who had just been watching had suceeded in pulling him off me and restrained him until the police arrived. It seemed the strangest thing that all these people (young men!) did nothing and watched until one of them did something and then the others joined in. It was like they were waiting for some sort of sign from somebody of what they were supposed to do and they were immoblized until they got that sign.



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19 Nov 2010, 5:40 pm

Do they not teach leadership in schools anymore? Or is it that they just teach "about" leadership?

Wow.