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16 Apr 2011, 7:49 am

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There's division on whether the rioters were defending their community or just thugs out for looting.



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16 Apr 2011, 10:30 am

Rriots arnd Rreason topic

Rreally. The UK has come a long way in the understanding of diverse cultures, and they could learn a thing or two more by studying the way Canada is a workable multicultural society. 8)


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16 Apr 2011, 11:16 am

To note London was not the only city in the UK to have riots in the 80s, Merseyside had riots the Toxteth one, & ones on the Wirral in Egremont & Noctorum.

Also Leeds in Chapeltown, Manchester in Moss Side, and Birmingham in Handsworth.

Its just another of many reasons why you should not vote for Tory scum!! !



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16 Apr 2011, 4:03 pm

cdfox7 wrote:
Its just another of many reasons why you should not vote for Tory scum!! !


We'll not mention the Oldham, Harehills and Bradford race riots that took place in May, June and July 2001 respectively under a Labour government, shall we?



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16 Apr 2011, 4:14 pm

Tequila wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
Its just another of many reasons why you should not vote for Tory scum!! !


We'll not mention the Oldham, Harehills and Bradford race riots that took place in May and July 2001 respectively under a Labour government, shall we?


I was only referring to the 1981 riots in which is the topic the OP choice to discuss.
then again the '81 riots was with racial tensions in the Afro-Caribbean communities,
the 2001 ones were with South Asian Islamic communities, so what's your point then?



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16 Apr 2011, 4:25 pm

My point is that party political tribalism with regards to rioting is pointless. There generally ends up being a race riot every ten years or so (Northern Ireland is a different story, they generally tend to riot there when they feel like it - there's at least one reliable riot per year up there).



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16 Apr 2011, 4:56 pm

Tequila wrote:
My point is that party political tribalism with regards to rioting is pointless. There generally ends up being a race riot every ten years or so (Northern Ireland is a different story, they generally tend to riot there when they feel like it - there's at least one reliable riot per year up there).


The '81 riots the current government (Tory) at that time was three years in power & some of there policies had a hand to play in them riots eg the Sus laws. The 2001 riots on the other hand had far right-wing groups creating the s**t, Labour has sod all in starting them riots.



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16 Apr 2011, 5:07 pm

It's looking though that not much has changed - we still have stop and search laws like they did pre-1981. So what has changed?



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16 Apr 2011, 5:15 pm

Tequila wrote:
It's looking though that not much has changed - we still have stop and search laws like they did pre-1981. So what has changed?


Using my home town for example, Toxteth as only had cosmetic changes that haven't tacked the issues ihmo.