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08 Jun 2011, 1:54 am

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/obamas-rating-economy-hits-low-poll-051019478.html

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08 Jun 2011, 2:55 pm

The media election machine has decided that Romney will be the next president. Remember how the media glorified Obama during his campain? Well the same thing is happening with Romney...unless there is a unexpected shift...I am sure that Romney will be our next president. Is that good or bad? I dont know...no one really knows a polititian until they are in power.

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08 Jun 2011, 4:21 pm

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They were all hot for Hillary, and had Rudy Guiliani set up as fall guy, until Rudy didn't do well in the primaries, and Obama came along and blew them all away. The media is fickle. The problem is, there are really no GOOD candidates out there. The elite are too afraid of Ron Paul, and Paul doesn't seem to have answers for the hole we're in, except to demolish the Federal Reserve and go back to Treasury issued $20 gold pieces, which may do more harm than good at this point. Paul has impeccable morals, but I'm not sure we need a moral president, they don't seem to work well, take a look at Carter. Politics has become such a blood sport that nobody wants to play anymore, since getting slashed to ribbons is for sadomasochists, and most pols have egos that are too big for S&M. So you have guys who are too stupid to know they're bleeding, like Obama and Palin. The 24 hour news cycle is really a great detriment to reasonable politics.

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08 Jun 2011, 5:35 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13705603

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An even more recent one [poll] puts the president 13 points ahead.

Its already been said, media is fickle.... And statistics are generated by humans. Best thing to do in situations where its 6-5 and pick em? Sit back and watch what happens rather then getting excited, angry, or prophetic months before the main event, or even any of the preceding appetizers, have occurred. The more you read about "Preliminary statistics" and even worse "Read into them", the more money/attention you're funneling to these really rather pointless Speculations about who's going to win and who isn't........ Media Glorification wouldn't matter a jot if no one listened.... Don't accuse/blame the media for catering to the masses (Unless you're going to also accuse/blame Capitalism for making money, or the earth for rotating, they're all doing what they were built to do), blame the masses for eating it down like Deep Fried Twinkies at a ho-down.....

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08 Jun 2011, 6:15 pm

And an even more recent poll, released an hour ago by Fox, has Obama 7 points ahead of Romney.

Interestingly they have Obama up 4 points over Giuliani, although in a GOP only poll Romney is ahead of Giuliani 23 to 13% out of a long list of Republican choices.

Judging from all these polls it looks like there are many opinions on the GOP side that aren't steadfast at this point and seem to change like the wind depending on who is on the list of potential Republican Canidates; I don't understand any other reason how the Fox Poll turned out the way it did.

Obama has a serious problem with the economy, and if the economy gets much worse, it may result in his downfall, but it appears, from the Fox poll, that potential Republican voters are fickle at this point when it comes to who they think can beat Obama.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/57404357/Obama-Poll

And speaking of fickle, a CNN poll at the end of May put Giuliani ahead of Romney in a list of potential GOP canidates.

http://wonkette.com/446655/giuliani-beating-romney-in-poll-despite-not-running

Too early, I think at this point, to make any concrete judgements other than people haven't made up their minds yet, on who they will stand behind as a Republican Canidate.

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09 Jun 2011, 7:50 am

I just hope whoever is the lead Republican candidate for President in 2012 that he or she does NOT pick Sarah Palin as their VP. If so I'm voting for President Obama again. :roll:

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09 Jun 2011, 8:29 am

Why are we trying to call the election 17 months out? It makes no sense at all. Frankly, I don't care what Obama's approval rating is right now, because I won't be able to vote for or against him until next year. The republican primaries won't happen for more than 6 months so let's focus on issues that matter now.

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09 Jun 2011, 10:32 am

We'd all be better off with a lot less campaigning and a lot more governing. I would fully support any policy that would limit any campaign activities to to just a few months prior to the actual election. Move up the primaries if need be, but this constant political circus has become a serious detriment to our society. That and campaign financing.

As for Romney, it could be a lot worse (Palin, Bachmann, Santorum - Google that one for a laugh if you haven't already). I find it annoying that he's trying to back away from the tremendous success his healthcare reform plan has had in MA, but we certainly can't have him looking like a socialist, now can we? The magic underpants might pose a bit of a problem though...

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09 Jun 2011, 2:27 pm

luvsterriers wrote:

I just hope whoever is the lead Republican candidate for President in 2012 that he or she does NOT pick Sarah Palin as their VP. If so I'm voting for President Obama again. :roll:

Me too, even though I voted for Obama in 2008. :roll:

Many people may not vote for Mitt Romney because he's a Mormon.

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09 Jun 2011, 6:08 pm

number5 wrote:

We'd all be better off with a lot less campaigning and a lot more governing.

All he cares about is campaigning. He doesn't care much for aspects of the job that don't involve getting glorified by the public.

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10 Jun 2011, 12:03 am

As I recall this time back in '95, Bob Dole was leading Bill Clinton by an even wider margin. Anyone remember a President Bob Dole?
The only poll that matters is the one on election day, and I still think Obama will carry the day.

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10 Jun 2011, 6:19 pm

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I not impressed with any of them. Obama has been a disapointment, he is far more to the right than I expected and has managed to only keep one promice and that was to get OBL. He gives too much ground in the name of biparisianship and loses respect of the dems and never had the respect of the repubs because he is black. If he was a white presdent, he would not have been met with such opposition. But eitherway, I think I am writing in Jim Marshal. I know that is a wasted vote but at least my conscience is clear.

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10 Jun 2011, 8:48 pm

Say goodbye to Obama Care if Romney gets in.

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10 Jun 2011, 11:28 pm

I really dont see what is so bad about national public health if it is done right like france. I have seen one of my friends get his teeth pulled in a mechanic shop with pliars and whisky because he could not afford dental care. The owner's mother who was 94 years old had a terrible infection in her leg and she cut it out with a knife when everyone was at work because she could not afford the doctor bills. Ya we may have a "good" healthcare system but it is inaccesable for many. My brother needs to have the titanium rod in his leg...reset and that requires breaking the bone again and much physical therapy. He wont get it done cause he cant afford the medical bills, but is in alot of pain because the doctor who set his leg the first time, did it wrong and got his leg at the wrong angle going into his knee. Ohhh but wait, malpractice is what is costing the medical system so much money! My brother wont sue him for it because it conflicts with his political beliefs. Anything WRONG with this picture?

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10 Jun 2011, 11:32 pm

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Hearing stuff like that sincerely makes me want to cry.

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11 Jun 2011, 1:17 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

jojobean wrote:

Hearing stuff like that sincerely makes me want to cry.

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If we kicked all the illegal aliens out and got them to take some of the anchor babies with them, then there would be more money in medicaid and hospital fees might be lower too. It wouldn't cover everybody but it would help a lot. It would be nice to get the people in those stories some healthcare, but not at the expense of defaulting on the national debt.

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