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JeremyNJ1984
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24 Jun 2011, 8:27 am

Delta Airlines is entering into an agreement with Saudi Arabian airlines which would bar Jews from flying on its airplanes. Delta should be sued if they operate this policy on U.S soil.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... a/1?csp=hf



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24 Jun 2011, 10:03 am

Even if anything happens (and I doubt it will), the article doesn't talk about banning Jewish people per se; it's Israel that they have a problem with.

Israel itself won't allow some nationalities to enter simply because their country is mainly Muslim.

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visa requirements to enter any country are dictated by that nation's government, not the airlines, and they apply to anyone entering the country regardless of whether it's by plane, bus or train.


As far as I'm aware this is also true.
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The issue here is one of principle. Delta isn't being forced to include Saudi Arabian Airlines into its Sky Team Alliance. In fact, Delta could stand on principle and refuse to include Saudi Arabian Airlines based on its discriminatory policy.


I must be missing something, but I still don't see the discrimination by Delta.



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24 Jun 2011, 10:26 am

Lene wrote:
Even if anything happens (and I doubt it will), the article doesn't talk about banning Jewish people per se; it's Israel that they have a problem with.

Israel itself won't allow some nationalities to enter simply because their country is mainly Muslim.
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visa requirements to enter any country are dictated by that nation's government, not the airlines, and they apply to anyone entering the country regardless of whether it's by plane, bus or train.


As far as I'm aware this is also true.
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The issue here is one of principle. Delta isn't being forced to include Saudi Arabian Airlines into its Sky Team Alliance. In fact, Delta could stand on principle and refuse to include Saudi Arabian Airlines based on its discriminatory policy.




I must be missing something, but I still don't see the discrimination by Delta.


Israel doesn't discriminate based on ethnic, national origin. It doesnt allow no fly list passengers and people connected with terror groups to go on its national airlines, but it does not allow a thinly veiled mask of discrimination such as Saudi Arabia is following. It also speaks to the values Delta claims to uphold as a company...if they even dare try to impose these rules on U.S soil they open themselves up to lawsuits, rightfully so.



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24 Jun 2011, 11:20 am

Not! Funny how the word "might" gets turned into "will" in the blogosphere.



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24 Jun 2011, 11:21 am

This is not discrimination by Delta Airlines. This is the policy of a soverign nation. All airlines team up with airlines from other nations when it makes sense for the customer and Delta has done this to allow seamless travel between Delta US locations and Saudi Arabia. All airlines also check the credentials of each flyer before they board the flight to another country to verify that the flyer can legally enter country of arrival (either for a visit, residence, citizen, or in-transit). Bus companies (and I am sure Amtrak) does the same thing before a passenger boards transportation to another country.



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24 Jun 2011, 3:39 pm

Jews are banned from being in Saudi Arabia so it would be really stupid for them to go there in the first place.


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25 Jun 2011, 10:59 am

JeremyNJ1984 wrote:
Delta Airlines is entering into an agreement with Saudi Arabian airlines which would bar Jews from flying on its airplanes. Delta should be sued if they operate this policy on U.S soil.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... a/1?csp=hf


This is not discrimination on the part of Delta. It is a condition Delta must observe if they have flights to Saudi Arabia.

The policy of Saudi Arabia is disgusting, but such are the infelicities of being sovereign.

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25 Jun 2011, 11:07 am

ruveyn wrote:
JeremyNJ1984 wrote:
Delta Airlines is entering into an agreement with Saudi Arabian airlines which would bar Jews from flying on its airplanes. Delta should be sued if they operate this policy on U.S soil.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... a/1?csp=hf


This is not discrimination on the part of Delta. It is a condition Delta must observe if they have flights to Saudi Arabia.

The policy of Saudi Arabia is disgusting, but such are the infelicities of being sovereign.

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If the Saudis are just going to turn away Jews at the gates then Delta might have to pay for their transport back to whereever they originated from. Its horrible this type of state sponsored biggotry exist but business is business.


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25 Jun 2011, 12:33 pm

I work in shipping and some exporters who deal with Arab countries have to request certificates that 'The vessel is not Israeli flag and will not call at any Israeli ports'. It's a common request throughout the Middle East,not something unique to Saudi Arabia and Delta Airlines are only doing what every other carrier has to do.It doesn't mean that the carriers or the people who trade with these countries agree with the policy,in fact I'm sure most of them think it's disgraceful.


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25 Jun 2011, 1:11 pm

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I work in shipping and some exporters who deal with Arab countries have to request certificates that 'The vessel is not Israeli flag and will not call at any Israeli ports'. It's a common request throughout the Middle East,not something unique to Saudi Arabia and Delta Airlines are only doing what every other carrier has to do.It doesn't mean that the carriers or the people who trade with these countries agree with the policy,in fact I'm sure most of them think it's disgraceful.


But they go along with the policy because they want to do business.

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