Russian Hockey team killed in a plane crash.

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Here's the gist of it from the wall street journal website: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 85466.html

(I don't usually use the WSJ for reference, I just googled and took the first link about the event that I could find, so if Inuyasha or someone else has issues with my choice of sources, well they now know how I operate. <.<)

That aside, it's kinda sad, even though I'm not even a hockey fan (and i'm canadian, for shame! ). So yeah, just wanted to share this with you guys (and girls, ofc)*.

Just for future reference to those who intend on traveling to Russia, though any airplane can crash, it might be something to keep in mind that Russian airliners do not fly in American air space because they do not meet FAA safety regulations.

That's very sad. A country has lost an entire team and maybe even an Olympic team. As a hockey fan, I find that upsetting. May they all rest in peace in the hockey rink in the sky.

The team was Yaroslavl Lokomotiv. It featured players from all over the world such as Slovakia, Czechia, Latvia, Belarus, Sweden, its coach was ex-Philadelphia Flyers defenceman Brad McCrimmon. Most notable players include Pavol Demitra of Slovakia, Ruslan Salei of Belarus... former NHL players.

First thought when I saw plane part in the Volga I wondered if it was part of a train because of their name!

No surprise. The team was travelling aboard a Soviet design passenger plane.

Soviet fighter planes were pretty good. Their passenger planes were just plane (sic) scary.

ruveyn

Last edited by ruveyn on 08 Sep 2011, 4:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

You are most certainly incorrect in this.

The IL-96, Tu-204 and Yak-42 (the type involved in this incident) all certainly overfly the US, since Cubana is an operator of all three types and they have used the types for Canadian and European operations. The Tu-204 is routinely seen at Pearson and the Yak-42 at Halifax.


The Sukhoi Superjet and Tu-204 are both on track for EASA type certification, which is certainly indicative that they would receive type certification by the FAA were an operator to request it. At least one North American carrier has placed firm orders for the Sukhoi bird (although operating exclusively in Mexico and Central America, for now).

While not airliners, both the An-225 and An-124 both operate into the US (in fact, the US military has used An-124's to airlift equipment to Afghanistan).

It's important to distinguish between design flaws, and operational performance. The Soviets were actually very strong on the former--designing aircraft that could operate in a huge range of very challenging conditions. It is in the latter that they demonstrated themselves to be vulnerable, losing many airframes to pilot error (both poor training and poor cockpit management), maintenance and poor government oversight.

In that sense, one is just as safe on an Aeroflot IL-96 as one is on an Aeroflot 777. But when one descends into the murk of small, domestic operators in the former Soviet Union, one encounters the fly-by-night (pun intended) operators who do not maintain their aircraft or train their crews properly. One would be as much at risk on a DC-9 or older generation 737 operated by one of these carriers as one would be on a Tu-134 or a Yak-42.

It's not about the flying on a Soviet designed plane--it's about flying on a Russian maintained, fuelled and operated plane.

More or less related, by the president of the KHL (i think it's the russian hockey leage?) said that they won't use that type of plane anymore, since it's too old and risky. Said it was from the 80s.

As a hockey player, it's all anyone was talking about this week. Just awful, a whole team i.e 40+ healthy young men gone like that? Very sad day.

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At least because it was a whole hockey team, it won't be forgotten so easily, which likely means that Russia now will see to that plane quality is greatly increased. In fact, the Russian president Medvedev already, with emotion, has said that things must be done about plane security. I doubt he would've cared that much if it had just been any regular crash, with "regular" people. In a way, this crash is going save many lives, in the future.

I don't mean to sound insensitive, but this is just the truth. The fact that this gets so much attention kind of proves it... that "regular" people are, overall, seen as less important to the world. Then again, no news in that statement.

By the way, the league is run by the president's brother!

thats not true. dmitry was an only child. i dont think theyre related.

Also Russian manufactured. Russia is not know for the superlative skills of its industries. Russian factory management both now and under the Commies suck-skies.

ruveyn