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06 Oct 2011, 6:02 am

With a little salute to Sondheim. Send in the Thugs.

Unions joining in on anti-Wall St. protest. Of course. No surprise.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/new ... t.Protest/

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06 Oct 2011, 8:40 am

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With a little salute to Sondheim. Send in the Thugs.

Unions joining in on anti-Wall St. protest. Of course. No surprise.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/new ... t.Protest/

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Yes, because all union workers are thugs... right, of course. Nothing but shameless bigotry in this heading.



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06 Oct 2011, 11:32 am

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With a little salute to Sondheim. Send in the Thugs.

Unions joining in on anti-Wall St. protest. Of course. No surprise.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/new ... t.Protest/

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I doublt they even know why they're there.
Someone must have promised free food and beer since that's about as far as thier values go.....
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06 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.



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06 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm

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Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

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06 Oct 2011, 1:54 pm

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Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

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And certainly that's problematic as well (although in the scope of things, it's barely a drop in the bucket), but it doesn't negate the corruption between Wall Street and our government. The overwhelming majority of union members protesting are just looking for better work opportunities and an apology for their eroded pensions. If you can find a protestor supporting union-mob ties, then painting him or her as a"thug" would apply. Otherwise, it's a rather inappropriate title.



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06 Oct 2011, 4:16 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
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Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

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And certainly that's problematic as well (although in the scope of things, it's barely a drop in the bucket), but it doesn't negate the corruption between Wall Street and our government. The overwhelming majority of union members protesting are just looking for better work opportunities and an apology for their eroded pensions. If you can find a protestor supporting union-mob ties, then painting him or her as a"thug" would apply. Otherwise, it's a rather inappropriate title.


Tell that to the CEO of Gibson Guitars or Boeing's CEO, cause they apparently aren't in Obama's "favored" category.



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06 Oct 2011, 4:40 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
number5 wrote:
Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

ruveyn


And certainly that's problematic as well (although in the scope of things, it's barely a drop in the bucket), but it doesn't negate the corruption between Wall Street and our government. The overwhelming majority of union members protesting are just looking for better work opportunities and an apology for their eroded pensions. If you can find a protestor supporting union-mob ties, then painting him or her as a"thug" would apply. Otherwise, it's a rather inappropriate title.


Tell that to the CEO of Gibson Guitars or Boeing's CEO, cause they apparently aren't in Obama's "favored" category.


I am not at all concerned these CEO's 'troubles.' I'm sure they're getting by just fine.

Again, and it's really getting a bit old now, Obama is part of the problem. He's failed to impose the needed regulations on Wall Street. He has succumbed to to special interest groups and his campaign financiers - just like all the other politicians who supposedly represent the people. It's not left vs. right. It's the people vs. the machine.



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06 Oct 2011, 5:14 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
number5 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
number5 wrote:
Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

ruveyn


And certainly that's problematic as well (although in the scope of things, it's barely a drop in the bucket), but it doesn't negate the corruption between Wall Street and our government. The overwhelming majority of union members protesting are just looking for better work opportunities and an apology for their eroded pensions. If you can find a protestor supporting union-mob ties, then painting him or her as a"thug" would apply. Otherwise, it's a rather inappropriate title.


Tell that to the CEO of Gibson Guitars or Boeing's CEO, cause they apparently aren't in Obama's "favored" category.


I am not at all concerned these CEO's 'troubles.' I'm sure they're getting by just fine.

Again, and it's really getting a bit old now, Obama is part of the problem. He's failed to impose the needed regulations on Wall Street. He has succumbed to to special interest groups and his campaign financiers - just like all the other politicians who supposedly represent the people. It's not left vs. right. It's the people vs. the machine.


So telling an American Company that they can't have a factory in the State of South Carolina, because that state is a right to work state, where you don't have to join a union if you don't want to, is okay in your mind?



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06 Oct 2011, 5:52 pm

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He has succumbed to to special interest groups and his campaign financiers.


It's like this; right or wrong you owe your campain financers.
They did not help just out of kindness.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:51 am

Inuyasha wrote:
number5 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
number5 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
number5 wrote:
Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

ruveyn


And certainly that's problematic as well (although in the scope of things, it's barely a drop in the bucket), but it doesn't negate the corruption between Wall Street and our government. The overwhelming majority of union members protesting are just looking for better work opportunities and an apology for their eroded pensions. If you can find a protestor supporting union-mob ties, then painting him or her as a"thug" would apply. Otherwise, it's a rather inappropriate title.


Tell that to the CEO of Gibson Guitars or Boeing's CEO, cause they apparently aren't in Obama's "favored" category.


I am not at all concerned these CEO's 'troubles.' I'm sure they're getting by just fine.

Again, and it's really getting a bit old now, Obama is part of the problem. He's failed to impose the needed regulations on Wall Street. He has succumbed to to special interest groups and his campaign financiers - just like all the other politicians who supposedly represent the people. It's not left vs. right. It's the people vs. the machine.


So telling an American Company that they can't have a factory in the State of South Carolina, because that state is a right to work state, where you don't have to join a union if you don't want to, is okay in your mind?


The term right to work is misleading. In states with such laws, it's all the more difficult for unions to organize. Companies can get away with abuses against their workers, and good pay and benefits are a rarity.
And if a company does business with the government, then the government certainly has the right to insist on certain terms, such as setting up shop where workers can unionize.

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07 Oct 2011, 12:56 am

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Come on now ruveyn. This isn't a fight for the unions. It's a fight against corruption. I have a feeling that you're actually on the same page here. Our government, in its current state, sucks. Our representatives don't represent the people, they represent their campaign contributors - which is where Wall Street comes in (follow the money all the way up to the top).

The unions are just joining in because they've endured the same hardship that most other Americans have.

Don't buy into the left vs. right meme that the media loves to hype. This is a fight against our pay-to-play system.


The unions are in bed with organized crime so don't tell me about fighting corruption.

ruveyn


Not every union is involved with organized crime; just as there are businesses which are either in bed with the mob, or even are mob fronts.

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07 Oct 2011, 6:19 am

The mob still exists in the US??
tell me more.

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07 Oct 2011, 10:16 am

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The mob still exists in the US??
tell me more.

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Unfortunately, yes. But they're not what they once were.

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07 Oct 2011, 10:34 am

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The term right to work is misleading. In states with such laws, it's all the more difficult for unions to organize. Companies can get away with abuses against their workers, and good pay and benefits are a rarity.


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One can always move. If a worker does not being in a "right to work" state he can always move to Michigan. The Unions have free reign there.

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07 Oct 2011, 10:42 am

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The term right to work is misleading. In states with such laws, it's all the more difficult for unions to organize. Companies can get away with abuses against their workers, and good pay and benefits are a rarity.


-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


One can always move. If a worker does not being in a "right to work" state he can always move to Michigan. The Unions have free reign there.

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I don't think many people want to live in Michigan these days. I'd put the blame for the collapse of industry there on the shoulders of the business owners who deserted the people who made them great.
And I think we both know it's quite impossible to move to another state when you're earning crap.

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