jojobean wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Israel still hates Palestine.
Israel 'turning blind eye' to West Bank settlers' attacks on PalestiniansQuote:
Jewish settlers in the West Bank are conducting a systematic and expanding campaign of violence against Palestinian farmers, families and children with the Israeli authorities turning a blind eye, according to confidential reports from senior European Union officials
What is Israel's beef with Palestine??? I never understood this. Did you know many of the leaders of Israel are Holocaust survivors yet they use alot of the same techniques the Nazi's used on them, on the Palestinians?? WTF?? what is that about?? You would think they would have acquired some compassion.
Jojo
Avoid Godwin's law. The Israelis are not using Nazi techniques [EG gas chambers and basement searches]. They are using post-WII Polish techniques [EG 'Get off mah lawn.' 'But this is my lawn' 'I said get off mah lawn.'].
You don't acquire compassion by being treated badly. That's like kicking a dog every time you see it and still expecting it to greet you with a happy bark and a wagging tail. That dog's going to bite eventually.
Of course, I don't excuse terrorist techniques to counter terrorists. Unless you're literally attacking terrorists with terrorism, then it's hypocritical, roundabout, and useless. The USA is currently doing the same thing, with many of the attacks being on its own people--threat of long prison sentences, excessive fines, police brutality--and I'd assume that European countries are doing the same, along with South America and Central America.
The problem can be rooted back to high-school cliques. Jewish people have been very closed-off in the past, partly because being open led to people trying to convert them all to Catholicism. Or Islam. Well, Muslims can be just as closed-off 'Muslims only' as Jewish people. So you have two sides who want to be left to their devices, and you've crammed them into this tiny strip of land and told some of them to get out and make room. It's like saying, "Jim stole Billy's truck. Mike, give Billy your truck."
There is no good solution for creating a 'Jewish State.' There weren't any before, and unless they were given what was considered an arid, useless piece of land, they'd still be 'in Rome' expected to 'do as the Romans.' Well, Britain, at the time, occupied Palestine. And they said, "Hey, we have this piece of s**t. You can give them THAT." Then they moved in, fixed it up a bit, and more people wanted to live there. Except the Palestinians weren't Jewish, felt alienated, and had recently become the minority after being the majority. Add that to the closed-circle behavior of some Jews,
Tension, snap, fight-or-flight. That's how these things work. :I
Despite this, there are still a lot of arabs who prefer Israel to the surrounding countries, even with some racist douchebags. I lived next door to some Muslim Egyptian immigrants who said that they were going to Israel because their kids liked it better there, they got a better education, and they were treated better. So if Israel is hell for some Arabs, maybe the surrounding Arab countries need to try making things better where THEY are.
Loooong reply aside, that made me happy. The posters and quotes, I mean.