And we've got another lunatic killer...

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06 Aug 2012, 3:06 am

Another one of those psychos shot up a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin, shooting not only members of the temple, but also shot police responding to the 911 call - before one of the officers spared the tax payers the cost of a trial. The dead gunman is now believed to be a white supremacist, and allegedly sporting a 9/11 tattoo. Possibly, that genius (sarcasm) thought he was attacking a mosque. Like that makes a difference.

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06 Aug 2012, 4:47 am

Well, either way it's a horrible tragedy, but in all honesty better that this case is portrayed as racially- or religiously-motivated then just some random act of psychosis. We don't need another reason for people to start rounding up the quote unquote "crazies" and "defects", not after that clusterf**k in Aurora.


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06 Aug 2012, 5:11 am

What's interesting is this - location matters in these events. This is all over the news in Europe, while happenings in Egypt are hard to get by even if you look for them. Sixteen Egyptian policemen at a border crossing might have been killed in a raid by militants trying to get into Israel with cars full of bombs, but that news is harder to find than news about anything that happens in the United States, including mildly-amusing gaffes by Mitt Romney.



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06 Aug 2012, 6:56 am

I find myself pleased that the killer got his in the end, though it would have been better if he had died before taking others with him.

I wonder what the motivation was, but I am sure it would not be understandable to a logical mind.



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06 Aug 2012, 6:57 am

...Is it bad that I let out the breath I'd been holding when I found out he's just some religious douchebag? >.>



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06 Aug 2012, 9:13 am

First Aurora, now this.. humanity is not all right.



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06 Aug 2012, 11:15 am

Khandov wrote:
First Aurora, now this.. humanity is not all right.


Of only one out of a thousand were evil doers there would be 300,000 evil doers running loose in the U.S.

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06 Aug 2012, 11:18 am

Usually after one of these happens a few others happen soon after it........so while it is very sad, I cannot say I am that terribly surprised.


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06 Aug 2012, 3:23 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
Well, either way it's a horrible tragedy, but in all honesty better that this case is portrayed as racially- or religiously-motivated then just some random act of psychosis. We don't need another reason for people to start rounding up the quote unquote "crazies" and "defects", not after that clusterf**k in Aurora.

Yeah, that was my first thought too. Probably shouldn't think that first, but that's how it is.



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06 Aug 2012, 3:52 pm

Rest In Peace, and may you dwell in Heaven, innocent Sikhs, trying to follow your faith, and martyred for it.
You thought that coming to America, with our 'Freedom of Religion', meant that you would be safe.

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06 Aug 2012, 4:50 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Rest In Peace, and may you dwell in Heaven, innocent Sikhs, trying to follow your faith, and martyred for it.
You thought that coming to America, with our 'Freedom of Religion', meant that you would be safe.

Sylkat :cry:


What impresses me, though, is how the Sikh community reacted. I was watching the CNN interview with the leader of the community in Wisconsin, and I was seriously impressed with him. He wasn't trying to blame anyone for this, rather he was merely lamenting the lack of understanding and compassion between faiths that lead to a tragedy such as this. He also said that anyone who wanted to learn more about their faith would be welcome amongst them. The community seems to be extremely tolerant, even in the face of animosity such as this, which is a lot more than I can say for the mainstream religious groups in America these days. I gained a lot of respect for them in the wake of this incident. Given, I'm probably not going to convert to Sikhism anytime soon, but at the same time they espouse the same tolerant and understanding philosophy that I strive for in my daily life.

I just want them to know that not everyone in America is like this. I for one think that they are more American than most Americans because of their philosophy, and that there are still those of us out there - however few - that agree with their ideals of peace, tolerance, and equality.


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06 Aug 2012, 9:28 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Rest In Peace, and may you dwell in Heaven, innocent Sikhs, trying to follow your faith, and martyred for it.
You thought that coming to America, with our 'Freedom of Religion', meant that you would be safe.

Sylkat :cry:


What impresses me, though, is how the Sikh community reacted. I was watching the CNN interview with the leader of the community in Wisconsin, and I was seriously impressed with him. He wasn't trying to blame anyone for this, rather he was merely lamenting the lack of understanding and compassion between faiths that lead to a tragedy such as this. He also said that anyone who wanted to learn more about their faith would be welcome amongst them. The community seems to be extremely tolerant, even in the face of animosity such as this, which is a lot more than I can say for the mainstream religious groups in America these days. I gained a lot of respect for them in the wake of this incident. Given, I'm probably not going to convert to Sikhism anytime soon, but at the same time they espouse the same tolerant and understanding philosophy that I strive for in my daily life.

I just want them to know that not everyone in America is like this. I for one think that they are more American than most Americans because of their philosophy, and that there are still those of us out there - however few - that agree with their ideals of peace, tolerance, and equality.


I think they know most of us aren't anything like the shooter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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07 Aug 2012, 12:56 am

LittleDarwin wrote:
I find myself pleased that the killer got his in the end, though it would have been better if he had died before taking others with him.

I wonder what the motivation was, but I am sure it would not be understandable to a logical mind.

Dumbass in public. There are a few variations of white supremacism, and in this case it looks like he hated muslims but either disn't know about sikhism or couldn't tell the difference between them and muslims. It has happened quite a bit this last decade. The ironic thing is that sikhs are not a factor in the war on terror.


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08 Aug 2012, 4:00 am

Having become curious about Sikhism,I have been Internet-searching; they have been attacked, abused, martyred since their first teacher..they are a fascinating people or faith.
I learned a lot about them that is truly inspiring.
The Golden Temple, or Hari Mandir, is absolutely stunning!

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08 Aug 2012, 4:16 am

I remember reading that some Sikhs have gotten into the habit of wearing badges that read "Don't freak, I'm a Sikh!" in the aftermath of Muslim terrorist attacks. I guess it's not just a cute story - it really can mean the difference between life and death. But I wonder whether the gunman would even have cared if someone explained to him the difference between Muslims and Sikhs.



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08 Aug 2012, 6:21 am

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But I wonder whether the gunman would even have cared if someone explained to him the difference between Muslims and Sikhs.

Hard to tell. Probably at best he would have left the sikhs alone and searched for a mosque, and chances are someone would have to explain to him that muslims meet on friday. Chances are that since they were not white it wouldn't have mattered much to him- his primary motive was to try and inspire lots of individual white supremacists to commit lone wolf attacks. He is not the first person to try that.


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