Tempted assault against newly elected Québec prime minister

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04 Sep 2012, 11:41 pm

He shot two peoples and attempted to put fire to the building in which Pauline Marois, the chief of Parti Québécois and newly elected Prime Minister, was giving her speech in front of hundred of peoples. :(
Only the peoples who have been shot have been hurt and are in danger to lost their life. After been arrested he said "Les anglais se réveillent". (The english speaking are waking up.)

Edit: one of those who have been shot is dead. :(


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05 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm

One person dead in the attack. The police just before were chasing a group of demonstrators around a block, running... running... just a few blocks away. The Occupy Montreal was projecting Pauline Marois' speech at the park just down the street from the event where she was speaking. As the riot cops showed up, the projection showed from the TV feed the footage of the suspect's capture... the riot cops shut down the display.

Later it was revealed that the police were tipped off but did nothing about it. They were too busy busting up little marches like the one that threatened to go to the Metropolis and convey an anarchist message to Marois and the PQ but chose not to... their plans to march into the east end also didn't happen because of the rain which caused the group to shrink significantly... the small group at one point started going west towards the Metropolis from the park again (but that's always blocked by the police, had they wanted to do that they should have gone from the west where they had gone earlier) and headed south down Berri before being chased on the sidewalk by the riot cops and then chased into the park.

There had been a 9 o'clock march and one at around 11:30 to 11:45 after Charest's speech... that one went east on Ste-Catherine towards the Quebec solidaire rally at the Olympia but was quickly chased around by riot cops. Another van full of riot cops chased after the ridiculous chase like something out of some comedy.



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05 Sep 2012, 12:25 pm

There's going to be a vigil at the Metropolis at 8 pm... Anarchopanda will be there. I think things may be awkward because with Charest's resigning from politics some in that crowd will be tempted to celebrate when a vigil is no place for that. They can celebrate at the park I guess... but this real deadly violence really casts a dark shadow over things.

I have read so much hatred of French Canada and Quebec on the internet in recent weeks, the type that I never really knew existed and I am beginning to better understand why there's separatism here in Quebec. There's a lot of "you people should be grateful to be allowed to speak French at all" attitude, the sort of "you are all a defeated people, act like it" mentality that's very off-putting, along with racist suggestions that French Quebeckers cannot run an economy, that they need the tutelage of superior people to do so. I heard stuff like that on right wing talk radio a long time ago (though not as overtly triumphalist and driven by some master mentality) but I guess what I know and learned since then has put that in a different light. Reports are that the shooter shot in the name of the English-speakers.

I think Charest's resignation is the best news really because it essentially forces the Liberals to cooperate with Marois' government. A leaderless party cannot really mount serious challenges to the more progressive parts of Marois' platform particularly as the real conservative pillar of the party is leaving. The Liberals also expect to be battered by the corruption inquiry. I hope though that some of the stuff inspired by the French right though doesn't get through, or if it does it's diluted .



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06 Sep 2012, 1:02 pm

This is really a tragic event and I'm glad that it was not worse than it could have been. Unsurprisingly many from the PQ are milking this situation for every drop to promote anti-English sentiment

xenon13 wrote:
There's going to be a vigil at the Metropolis at 8 pm... Anarchopanda will be there. I think things may be awkward because with Charest's resigning from politics some in that crowd will be tempted to celebrate when a vigil is no place for that. They can celebrate at the park I guess... but this real deadly violence really casts a dark shadow over things.


There has been a shadow over Quebec for a long time

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I have read so much hatred of French Canada and Quebec on the internet in recent weeks, the type that I never really knew existed and I am beginning to better understand why there's separatism here in Quebec.


Aw, that's sad, you read anti-Quebec stuff on the internet, where most people's reason goes out the window anyway. I have experienced first hand the intolerance of many Quebecois very much along the lines of this video: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ ... viral.html

There is separatism in Quebec because so many idiots like that angry douche in the video are being hand fed lies by the PQ. Most of the PQ supporters I see out here in Western Montreal are just like him or worse. I have been physically assaulted too many times to count. Don't get me started on the job opportunities denied to me or the services I have been refused

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There's a lot of "you people should be grateful to be allowed to speak French at all" attitude,


Who promotes this attitude?

xenon13 wrote:
the sort of "you are all a defeated people, act like it" mentality that's very off-putting,


Or this one?

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along with racist suggestions that French Quebeckers cannot run an economy, that they need the tutelage of superior people to do so.


The French are a race?

I have yet to see any sort of solid post-independence economic plan for Quebec from a sovereigntist. Usually when I ask they yell at me. Sovereigntists are very loud, and talk a lot, but in reality, they say very, very little. It also seems they enjoy arguing against a blatant straw man, as evidenced by your "examples" of why Quebec separatism exists

xenon13 wrote:
I heard stuff like that on right wing talk radio a long time ago (though not as overtly triumphalist and driven by some master mentality) but I guess what I know and learned since then has put that in a different light. Reports are that the shooter shot in the name of the English-speakers.


He doesn't get any support from the English speaking community, especially since he is not even a Montrealer and is likely mentally ill or disturbed.

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I think Charest's resignation is the best news really because it essentially forces the Liberals to cooperate with Marois' government. A leaderless party cannot really mount serious challenges to the more progressive parts of Marois' platform particularly as the real conservative pillar of the party is leaving. The Liberals also expect to be battered by the corruption inquiry. I hope though that some of the stuff inspired by the French right though doesn't get through, or if it does it's diluted .


I don't think many people in Quebec have a problem with the PQ "progressive" policies, in fact if they dropped the incendiary anti-English rhetoric and stopped trying to drive us all out of the province they might even get our votes. As is, they make absolutely no attempt to appeal to us. They treat us like foreigners, like you French are the only ones with a right to call this place home. My family has lived here for a long time, what business does some poorly educated f*ck from Saguenay have telling me I should "Go back to Canada".

I also wonder how would Marois enforce her proposed increases in the severity of Bill 101? Is it to be expected that employees inform on each other when they speak English in a business with more than 11 employees? Will people be rewarded for the diligence in ratting out those filthy English speakers? How is this sort of policy in any way "progressive"?

Furthermore: What is this "Quebec culture" that is under threat? No ambiguous or rhetorical answers please


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14 Sep 2012, 9:07 pm

The vigil was a very serious event and there was no celebrations at all at Charest's exit. There apparently were some people gathered in the square nearby but by the time I got there most people had left so I saw no celebrating there either. I spotted many red square people at the vigil including Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois. I figured that Anarchopanda would have the sense to not show up in the panda outfit...

At the square, a young woman was questioned by a large group of policemen for a long period of time because she had discovered their secret police station on the square. Earlier, someone was ticketed for spitting.

As for the shooting, Richard Bain's first shot killed the technician and wounded another as the bullet passed through the first victim and struck the second. His weapon jammed when he tried to shoot a policeman.

There have been a lot of plans for Quebec sovereignty, Jacques Parizeau, who was a Finance Minister who is considered quite the authority (he set up the Caisse de depot et placement in the 1960s) had quite detailed plans on that. The problem with him is that he is not orthodox in his methods, those methods of course which are sinking the entire world right now.