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21 Apr 2013, 4:36 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt49XEvTy60[/youtube]

I find her quote to be REALLY offensive. She is giving off the perception that anyone who is quiet is going to become a psychopathic killer or a terrorist and given how many times a day people are constantly telling me how quiet I am, I guess people have to be "careful" around me now. Wonderful. :x



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21 Apr 2013, 5:20 am

She's a moron...It's people like her that are the reasons that I feel the need to "fake it" to fit in; if you're introverted, you're viewed by them as mischievous and "the enemy".


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21 Apr 2013, 6:50 am

I met a lot of quiet people. Most of them were cool people. Lot smarter than expected.



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21 Apr 2013, 7:06 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt49XEvTy60[/youtube]

I find her quote to be REALLY offensive. She is giving off the perception that anyone who is quiet is going to become a psychopathic killer or a terrorist and given how many times a day people are constantly telling me how quiet I am, I guess people have to be "careful" around me now. Wonderful. :x


You are much too touchy. She said "this is something I would not have expected from him..." or words to that effect.

She did not make a general statement about quite people. She made a particular statement about that particular person.

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21 Apr 2013, 10:22 am

Iain Duncan Smith indeed is extremely dangerous and when he was leader of Britain's Nasty Party he dubbed himself the "Quiet Man"... Duncan Smith is gleefully killing hundreds of people as a cabinet minister under David Cameron.



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21 Apr 2013, 10:34 am

I didn't watch it but its thinking like that which lead to a girl telling me she was surprised I wasn't the psychopath with the gun during a lock-down. That's always a great memory to look back on :roll:


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21 Apr 2013, 11:03 am

xenon13 wrote:
Iain Duncan Smith indeed is extremely dangerous and when he was leader of Britain's Nasty Party he dubbed himself the "Quiet Man"... Duncan Smith is gleefully killing hundreds of people as a cabinet minister under David Cameron.


What do you mean by "killing" I though homicide was illegal in your country.

Or are you just doing the typical Left Wing abuse of language again (and again and again...)

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21 Apr 2013, 11:27 am

ruveyn wrote:
You are much too touchy. She said "this is something I would not have expected from him..." or words to that effect.

She did not make a general statement about quite people. She made a particular statement about that particular person.

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You are incorrect, ruveyn. It's only a 50 second clip, which you're free to rewatch.

She said:

Like they always say, you gotta be careful with the quiet ones.

They = general they
you = general you
ones PLURAL = a generic group that fit the description

This was an adage, not just a statement about one individual.

I'm not as offended as the OP, because I know this is how many think. But the OP's assessment is correct about what she's saying. Again, it's a 50 second clip, rewatch if you didn't comprehend the first time.



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21 Apr 2013, 11:46 am

xenon13 wrote:
Duncan Smith is gleefully killing hundreds of people as a cabinet minister under David Cameron.


What utter nonsense. Using language like that actually harms our cause rather than helps it.

And I say this as an opponent of a lot of the policies of IDS.



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21 Apr 2013, 11:59 am

The Nasty Party has been quite explicit about claiming that Life Boat Britain hasn't enough supplies on board for everyone and certain people must be nudged out and that's what their policies are designed to do quite clearly. IDS is a killer, and I'm sure that he'd admit to it himself in private and be quite proud of it.



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21 Apr 2013, 12:24 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
You are incorrect, ruveyn. It's only a 50 second clip, which you're free to rewatch.

Then watch it again from 00:41 to the end of the clip - she says: "I dunno, it's... I, I guess I just started going crazy... 'cause I... That's not something I would have expected from him. So..."
She is making a statement about a specific individual.


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21 Apr 2013, 12:28 pm

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Well, I goodled IDS and got several entirely different results.
What exactly is it and why is it a killer?


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21 Apr 2013, 12:45 pm

He is leading the campaign to blame disabled people for Britain's financial crisis and has led a hate campaign in the media against such people and has drawn up policies attacking them directly. This private company has been given quotas force people either to work or to remove support to permit them to work (in the midst of a depression, naturally, to properly suppress wages as planned) and the plan is to get people to give up and kill themselves in some cases. Hundreds of people have or have died because of the stress. Legal aid has just been banned for such cases. It's pretty clear what he and his government is doing and I don't accept this idea that this is all just incidental. Michael Heseltine let the cat out of the bag when he said British people are too comfortable to work hard and that they must be subject to impoverishment. Straight out of the horse's mouth.



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21 Apr 2013, 12:57 pm

^ This thread's topic concerns an interview related to the explosions in Boston, not British politics and your allegations concerning IDS.
Please stay on topic, or create one of your own.


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21 Apr 2013, 1:05 pm

Cornflake wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
You are incorrect, ruveyn. It's only a 50 second clip, which you're free to rewatch.

Then watch it again from 00:41 to the end of the clip - she says: "I dunno, it's... I, I guess I just started going crazy... 'cause I... That's not something I would have expected from him. So..."
She is making a statement about a specific individual.


You're incorrect.

Yes, at the 41 second mark she is making a statement about a specific individual. This comes after her blanket statement, and then additional questions. There's also a clear edit at the 40 second mark. So her answers to the followup questions are irrelevant.

It's like if I said:

Cornflake is mistaken, but like they say, you can't trust those moderators on WP......yeah, I'm surprised Cornflake doesn't get it.

In that sentence, you're being mistaken and my surprise at you not getting it are me talking about one individual, in this case: you. The statement about not being able to trust moderators (plural) because of the behavior of one is a general blanket statement.

This isn't hard to comprehend. Have a second look.



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21 Apr 2013, 2:13 pm

I understand those remarks to be a variant of the well-known maxim Still waters run deep.
The problem, as I understand it, concerns the public understanding of being dangerous.

"Dangerous! And so am I, very dangerous; more dangerous than anything you will ever meet,
unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord. And Aragorn is dangerous, and
Legolas is dangerous. You are beset with dangers, Gimli son of Gloin; for you are dangerous
yourself, after your own fashion."--Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

"Quickbeam is a gentle creature, but he hates Saruman all the more fiercely for that: his people
suffered cruelly from orc-axes."--Meriadoc, addressing Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas.