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On the news recently the EDL burned down some school... but nothing was said about arrests etc... when, on the other hand, some Muslims fed up of the EDL's bollocks concocted a plan to plant a bomb at one of their gatherings... and failed, since it finished earlier than they thought, they were sentenced for nearly 20 years. What the hell?

I mean, I suppose, the former is more recent and as such not much investigation has gone into it... but I haven't generally heard of many EDL members being given long sentences (although I could have easily missed it, obviously).

So... is this a possible bias judges have against Muslims?

What's an EDL?

English Defence League

murder is worse than arson

The arson attack you refer to is under investigation. Given the situation, the police probably don’t want to make any arrests without very strong evidence. Plus I doubt whoever carried out the attack made themselves easy to spot.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-fire-lo ... ml#R2ZZwU0


The Muslims you mention were in a car found to contain exsposives, hence less time needed for an invetigation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22344054

Have any evidence for this at all? If you haven't, you should withdraw it.

The EDL strongly deny that it was anything to do with them and their members - in fact, they are doubtful that it was even non-Muslims that were responsible for this.

Apparently, word on the local grapevine is that it may have been an insurance job by local Muslims. The building was pretty run down from the photos, and it would be a nice way to end up with a new one on the insurance/state.

That said, I am open to it being either the EDL or Muslims.

To put it another way: the damage visited upon the mosque is more severe than any other anti-Muslim attacks during the immediate period after Woolwich. One or two mosques suffered minor damage, some women had people try to pull their hijab/abaya/niqab off, but that's about it. Even in the small handful of physical anti-Muslim attacks, no-one was physically harmed and it all died down quickly afterwards. I think this is an amazing testament to the tolerance of the vast majority of people in this country, despite what grievance-mongers in Tell MAMA said (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10093568/The-truth-about-the-wave-of-attacks-on-Muslims-after-Woolwich-murder.html). I can't imagine that jihadi types would be as peaceful if a neo-Nazi terrorist stormed into a mosque and gunned down everyone in there.



I suspect that this is because they know who has done it... and it's not the EDL.

Last edited by Tequila on 15 Jun 2013, 4:51 am, edited 9 times in total.

And this apologia for would-be murderous terrorists is absolutely disgusting.

It wouldn't matter if they were EDL or any other civilians - they are kuffar. The jihadis are using a grievance - any grievance - in order to murder and maim.

I am sick of people making this constant false equivalence between the EDL and jihadis. It doesn't stand up on any level. The EDL are (at worst) reactionary, yobbish and thuggish football hooligans who are of no import outside England. No politician or political party of any note wants anything to do with them (even Geert Wilders ignores them). Jihadism is a radical religion-based terroristic movement that has deeply sophisticated networks and support worldwide and the patronage and funding of several governments.

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And the case of Abu Qatada backs this up does it, 8 years of legal process and a £1.7 million bill including legal aid.

Bias judges have against muslims? They hardly get punished for their heinous crimes, such as trading in children and raping them. There have been several such gangs who did sickening things (in Great Britain) and they hardly got pursued by justice of police, because nobody wanted to harm ''community cohesion''. Another rapist got set free because of his muslim faith/culture: The poor thing didn't understand our culture/view on women/view on sex and modesty!

So perhaps a positive bias?

A judge rejected the excuses of a Polish immigrant (although his offences were less serious - apparently he had been pinching women's bottoms) to the UK who tried the same line.

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It goes worse than that. The police and social services have known about such cases for decades - the grooming scandals were part of a TV documentary nearly ten years ago (that had to be postponed due to threatened religious riots), but people weren't being prosecuted until another five/six years after that.

Long Live Englandibad and Britainistan.

ruveyn

I repeat: if this turns out that the EDL is responsible for this, I'll be amazed.

The entire building, from top to bottom, went up in flames and completely burnt down. This is quite a rare occurrence in cases where a fire was not started deliberately, probably by people inside the building.

If it was an EDL attack, I would expect to see some damage in part of the building but with other parts of it intact or only lightly damaged. The fact that the whole thing has gone up worries me, and it suggests that it was well planned.