Mississippi State Prison for mentally ill = horror house

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This prison is under lawsuit, finally but the details makes me want to cry so much... Definately no hope for those people

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/opini ... .html?_r=0

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06 ... ntally-ill

I first heard this story on msnbc this morning, so I had to google it

Impunity must end.

here in PA, a person with mental illness, instead of being treated, was repeatedly punished with solitary for the symptoms of his disease. he eventually committed suicide. there is a law suit now - to get the prison system to change.

The state leaderships, the prison leaderships, all the responsible people must pay for these crimes.

So, what are the alternatives to treatment in a state-run hospital?

The governor and all others responsible should be locked up over this.

After closing the State Hospitals in 1974, the people released soon wound up in the prison system. The State Hospitals were not any better.

State Prison systems were overloaded by lock them up and throw away the key laws.

The horrors of Bedlam lead to laws against chaining them to walls, which left other prisoners within their reach.

Private prisons are given the worst of the worst.

The article does not mention what they were convicted of, how many convictions, but locked behind a solid door is reserved for those that would assult anyone if they only had bars.

What to do when no mental health treatment works, and the person has a long history of crimes and worse?

Stright jackets, restraints, padded cells, are not allowed, and someone would have to go feed them. Locked in a box, fed by tray through a slot, and ignored, is all that is left.

There are a fair number that will never leave prison alive. Confined till dead was the least the Judge could do.

In the old days, it would have been a rope and a quick end, or a finding of Demonic Possession, and burning at the stake.

Taking them to a medical appointment is like transporting Hannibal Lector. Everyone knows they are there to death, and new crime will get them out for another trial, which is their only tourism.

Other prisons have the Natural Life prisoners who go out and tend the flowers at the Warden's house.

Every barrel has a bottom, and when everything the Mental Health System, or the Prison System can do has been tried several times without any success, they are sent to the last resort for 360 years. Their first parole hearing is in 180 years.

If the ACLU and The Sothern Poverty Law Center are so concerned, they can open a No Exit Prison, and get paid to care for these people, animals, monsters, whatever.

Staffing last resort prisons is not easy. It is mostly last resort employment. Not everyone is locked up, some run the place, cook, clean, stab guards.

No education is required to be a guard, just the ability to stay alive in a fight. The best outcome is they will spend seven to ten years in the madhouse if they work for the State, or longer for Private Prisons. The pay is not great.

So make sure that none of the prisoners leave alive, and try to see that all of the Corrections Officers do.

It may be needed, but it is not rewarding work.

Prisoners will stage knife fights just to get a guard to come break it up, then they all turn on him. Stay safe, make bets on the outcome, give tips to the fighters, keep your knife up, lean forward, it's quicker and gives more reach!

A much better system could be funded with to the death cage fights and pay per view. They are not good fighters, it would have a lot of comedy. Blooper reels, last seasons bad and ugly, it has promise.

Until then feel free to be the Mother Teresa of Corrections, working hand and hand with the bottom of life, for as long as you live. No one would sell you life insurance.

Also everyone has jailhouse tattoos, Hepatitus, HIV, and likes to share. As most start young, they have heard of Hetrosexuals, but it seems alien and unnatural to them. They do not identfy as homosexuals, they are real men, those men they rape are homosexuals.

It is not just Mental Illness, or Criminal Behavior, crazy criminals will tell you these people are Deranged!

Good luck with your dreams of a better world, but keeping nightmares locked up is for the best.

For the rest of your natural life, does leave some wiggle room, how about freedom, if you can beat a lion in the hundred yard dash? Even if they made it they would be back within months, having left a trail of meanless suffering.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

It will be interesting to see if this one makes it to the Supreme Court (or even if the Eight Amendment violation claim is upheld by the Federal District Court).

In Farmer v. Brennan, which is - to my knowledge - the most recent SCOTUS ruling on the Eight Amendment in a prison setting, the Court ruled that (my emphasis added):

A prison official may be held liable under the Eighth Amendment for acting with "deliberate indifference" to inmate health or safety only if he knows that inmates face a substantial risk of serious harm and disregards that risk by failing to take reasonable measures to abate it.

Source: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/g ... &invol=825

My God, is Mississippi part of the third world?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Mississippi has reputation of being hard on the people at the bottom of the food chain since the antebellum era. The old saying "sold down the river" originates from a common threat made to or about troublesome slaves is that they would be sold to plantations on the lower Mississippi River where conditions were notoriously brutal. Nothing about Mississippi surprises me even to this day.

Hopefully they get the East Mississippi Correctional Facility squared away and operating as a modern correctional facility should. Of course, I can help but think anything the American Criminal Liberties Union has a beef with is embellished a just little…….

The USSC says "The Amendment outlaws cruel and unusual "punishments," not 'conditions,'"... so imprisonment is not considered to be punishment? If imprisonment is a punishment therefore cruel and unusual conditions of imprisonment make for cruel and unusual punishment.

I see they bend over backwards to justify torture and other abuses... splendid.

It is obvious that the Supreme Court would want to take the path of least resistance and not have people punished for presiding over hellholes. It ruffles too many important feathers to do that. Thus, the person in question must show an unusual villainy... and simply presiding over a tortuous hellhole is not enough. Thus, they bend over backwards to justify torture.