Russia Grants Snowden Temporary Asylum

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I love the U.S response to this which has been mostly along the lines of "We're being betrayed, this is a stab in the back." Priceless. If these idiots in D.C. rubbed two brain cells together they'd realize that Russia has every right to shelter Snowden. This is the guy who revealed that we the people along with a lot of other nations (Russia included were being spied on by the NSA and Congress acts surprised when one of the spied on nations takes the guy in.

I wonder what country he will end up in at the end.

He is a traitor to the united states of America. His information may have been useful for the public to know but he harmed national security by giving away secret information to the Chinese and the Russians. The Russians may have the legitimate authority to give him sanctuary, but they will have to accept the consequences of what the US will do to them in retaliation. That is if those pinheads in D.C. ever get enough backbone to do something about it. And Snowden better not come back o the U.S. if he doesn't want to end up like Manning.

What proof is there that he gave secret information to China and Russia?

Hmm, guy that put himself in grave peril in order to expose wrongdoing by government against founding principals/citizens of country, vs people who want to imprison same; who's calling whom the traitor now?

It was fully known to Russia, China, and Osama.

Osama would not use a phone, because fake name and new number, they were being scanned for voice prints.

Computers are wide open, have been hacked many ways, including being turned into listening devices, and remote view cams. A High School did it to their students, to see what they were doing in their bedrooms.

There is no hiding online, even the most cautious will open email from people they trust, who have been hacked for that reason.

What I search for online, 6v light bulbs, I suddenly get ads for. Screw the NSA, my ISP is watching me!

A phone photo, a reverse image search, and all places that face appears get listed, with links that can provide name, address, Social Security, and lots more.

The international has been going on for a long time, and phones can be tapped without a warrent, if no one finds out. The Warrent is only needed to use it for evidence in court. The same for incoming and outgoing mail, don't have to open it to connect your world.

The line has been, with due reason of a crime.

What Snowden points out is survalence of all non suspects.

Police work is a file on known and suspected criminals,

Secret Police is a file on everyone, which can be used to swing the next election.

Secret Police Work is letting someone know that if they vote, their wife will hear about that girl you had sex with, and your boss will learn that you bowl with someone who works for his competitor.

Police stop crime, Secret Police Blackmail Innocents.

Snowden was pointing out the very real danger of a Secret Police State, In the Land of the Free.

J Edgar Hoover had files on everyone in politics, the NSA has files on everyone, plus Image, voice print, and all records from birth on, plus parents, near relatives, and friends as a group.

Imagine the Supreme Court, their personal histories, family histories, friends, and there are stories people just do not want known, which can swing their vote on an issue, like spying on the citizens without cause.

A Secret Police gains total power, even in a democracy with elections.

A Constitution is only good if enforced. What's Holden Holding back?

Snowden is reporting on the overthrow of the United States Government, by the people who work there.

It does fit the defininition of treason, by a large and entrenched National Security Group.

Those who would limit their power, the Tea Party, get Audits from the IRS.

A Secret Police will become the only power. With no checks on that power, it will become just the power to do anything. Power Corrupts!

Solution either don't use a computer or make sure the computer is totally isolated from any communication lines or computer networks. Problem solved.

next best thing: encrypt all your communications. There are codes not even NSA can decrypt. For example one time pads. No one can decrypt one time pads.

ruveyn

Unless you're not using truly random numbers, as the Russians found out to their chagrin back in the 50's. It's also an extremely cumbersome system to use, which is why most of the world uses some variation on public key encryption.

The thing is, is that first world governments can afford the cash for computer systems powerful enough to encode/decode random number encryption.

It's not actually power intensive, you can easily do it with a pen and paper, the problem is that it's cumbersome and space intensive, as it requires an amount of random data equivalent to what is being encrypted. The upside is that if done properly, the one time pad is truly unbreakable, no matter how much computer power you throw at it.

Allow me to clarify, I realise that this is an unbreakable scheme, which is why allowing computers to generate random data . If you want to send an encrypted message, you can easily generate random data greater than the message . Space intensive? Cumbersome? maybe, but if you let large scale computers to handle this, you have a system that is manageable, without the downfalls of public/private key encryption.

Here's the problem though; you need to have identical sets of random data on both ends of the communications system, and they need to have been transmitted in such a was as to be absolutely secure... Starting to see the logistical problem, even for wealthy nations? You'd have to generate the random data, make sure it's copied perfectly, then courier copies out to wherever you're looking to send the messages to, while maintaining absolute security and integrity of the random data, and then synchronizing it with the other copy(s) at the originating end. There's a reason no one uses it for general communications, it's only really used for specific ultra high security communications.