Blind Man & Seeing-Eye Dog Removed From Airplane

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14 Nov 2013, 10:42 pm

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow ... z2kgMKp1nx


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15 Nov 2013, 12:38 am

No executive summary?



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15 Nov 2013, 12:48 am

The title is the executive summary. ;)



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15 Nov 2013, 12:54 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
The title is the executive summary. ;)


So is the question whether or not we should be in favor of removing the blind and their seeing eye dogs from aircraft?

I'd vote against removing them provided the dog is up to date on its rabies shots. What do you think?



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15 Nov 2013, 4:49 pm

I think a blind passenger should be allowed to keep his or her seeing eye dog.

Plus, I like dogs. :D



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15 Nov 2013, 5:01 pm

I think the flight crew who removed the blind man and his seeing-eye dog from the airplane exercised ZERO common sense not only for removing both, but for also kicking all the other passengers off of the airplane just because they were sticking up for both.


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16 Nov 2013, 11:43 am

I agree. Zero common sense.

Now, once someone in a position of power enters into this authority and compliance mode, it's useless and in fact counterproductive to enter into a discussion and provide reasons. Or, very brief and matter-of-fact reasons, but even this is far less than a 100% deal.

In a similar way, it's usually a losing proposition to argue with a police officer. You do have certain rights such as to have a lawyer.



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17 Nov 2013, 5:21 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
I think the flight crew who removed the blind man and his seeing-eye dog from the airplane exercised ZERO common sense not only for removing both, but for also kicking all the other passengers off of the airplane just because they were sticking up for both.


Wait, so not only did they kick this blind guy with his guide dog off the plane, but they kicked off all the other passengers too? What were they going to do, fly the plane without any passengers on it? This sounds really stupid to me.



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17 Nov 2013, 5:26 pm

I assume that the blind guy wasn't the pilot or co-pilot.



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17 Nov 2013, 6:19 pm

eric76 wrote:
I assume that the blind guy wasn't the pilot or co-pilot.


I didn't say that he was. He was a passenger that got on the plane with his guide dog. Apparently, he was kicked off with his guide dog because the dog got up and then slept underneath someones feet and the blind man (quite rightly I think) refused to stow his dog away. The other passengers were kicked off the plane too just for supporting him.



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18 Nov 2013, 11:41 am

I don't understand why a dog on an airplane is a problem to begin with. The other day when I took my daughter to the tag office to get her learners permit to drive, it was rainy and cold and there was some stray dog inside and nobody cared. Nobody put him out because it was rainy and cold. Even the lady whose baby was crawling around on the floor didn't mind the dog, so I can't imagine one doing much harm on an airplane. They keep the doors to the elementary school propped open in warm weather to cut down on the air conditioning and dogs and cats go in there all the time. Just wander in to the school. Usually they stay right there in the foyer but sometimes they go down the hall. They keep them out of the lunch rooms and classrooms though.



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18 Nov 2013, 12:04 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I don't understand why a dog on an airplane is a problem to begin with. The other day when I took my daughter to the tag office to get her learners permit to drive, it was rainy and cold and there was some stray dog inside and nobody cared. Nobody put him out because it was rainy and cold. Even the lady whose baby was crawling around on the floor didn't mind the dog, so I can't imagine one doing much harm on an airplane. They keep the doors to the elementary school propped open in warm weather to cut down on the air conditioning and dogs and cats go in there all the time. Just wander in to the school. Usually they stay right there in the foyer but sometimes they go down the hall. They keep them out of the lunch rooms and classrooms though.


When I took the undergraduate Complex Analysis (Math) class in about 1975, it was on the second floor of a classroom building. One day during the middle of class, a dog just wondered into the classroom, walked around sniffing at things, and then left. The prof didn't like it very much.