Cops beat deaf man for signing at them

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18 Feb 2014, 2:36 pm

He was there at this friend's house borrowing a snowboard when the cops showed up and started to become violent with him. The man tried to sign that he was deaf and was there legally, but the cops would have none of it and beat and tased him.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/02/14/65377.htm


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18 Feb 2014, 2:51 pm

Just what we need. More Stormtroopers. That'll stamp out crime.



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18 Feb 2014, 3:02 pm

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http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/02/14/65377.htm

     Meister says he used hand gestures to try to tell police he is deaf and was lawfully at the home.
     The cops were having none of it. They "shot Taser darts into Mr. Meister, administered a number of painful electric shocks, struck him with fists and feet, and forcibly took him to the ground," he says in the complaint.
     Officers kicked and punched him in the back and stomach, choked and Tasered him, delivering "punishing shocks" and intentionally "burning his flesh," Meister claims.

The worse part is the choking. The police putting the man in a chokehold could actually kill him, as it had other people.



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18 Feb 2014, 3:07 pm

Do not resist. Do not fight back.

Become passive. Go deep within yourself. Become a zen master, if only for a little bit. Speak or move after a one-thousand one, one-thousand two pause. Don't overspeak. One simple sentence or phrase. And then maybe, maybe another simple sentence or phrase.

Of course, after the event, you'll have plenty of time to decide whether you want to get a lawyer or civil rights group and sue the police.



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18 Feb 2014, 4:11 pm

From the article:

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Meister says he used hand gestures to try to tell police he is deaf and was lawfully at the home.
The cops were having none of it. They "shot Taser darts into Mr. Meister, administered a number of painful electric shocks, struck him with fists and feet, and forcibly took him to the ground," he says in the complaint. Officers kicked and punched him in the back and stomach, choked and Tasered him, delivering "punishing shocks" and intentionally "burning his flesh," Meister claims.

I had originally been under the beleif that tasers were to be used only to gain control of a suspect so they could be restrained. Ever since the "don't tase me, bro" incident at UF in '07 it seems that getting control of someone isn't always enough. They want to use the taser to shut someone up or to punish them for putting the cops to the trouble of having to respond.

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"This incident occurred in substantial part because the HPD does not provide its officers the training and resources to serve people who are deaf or hard of hearing, including those who communicate primarily through American Sign Language," the lawsuit states.

Really, should it take specialized training to deal with the deaf??? Can't common sense ever take over?
The same thing applies to the dog shooting incident in Filer Idaho last week.


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18 Feb 2014, 4:19 pm

Raptor wrote:
Really, should it take specialized training to deal with the deaf??? Can't common sense ever take over?
The same thing applies to the dog shooting incident in Filer Idaho last week.


I'm with you on this. If I come up to somebody and they point to their ears and do signing (which I don't understand), then it's pretty clear what's going on. I'd get out a pen and paper so we can exchange messages.


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18 Feb 2014, 4:56 pm

beneficii wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Really, should it take specialized training to deal with the deaf??? Can't common sense ever take over?
The same thing applies to the dog shooting incident in Filer Idaho last week.


I'm with you on this.

I bet that hurt. :P


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18 Feb 2014, 7:15 pm

Was he wearing hearing aids?? Those are obvious to spot and he could've pointed at them. Something sounds fishy here. Hope he's ok though.



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18 Feb 2014, 7:25 pm

Police, in my experience, are seldom socially positive persons. Perhaps it is the stuff they see in the course of their jobs, perhaps it is their training (or lack of), perhaps it is the influence (and attitudes) of their leaders, or perhaps it is the type of person drawn to the profession.

Regardless, I see nothing in the article about Mr.Whatshisname posing a threat. So tasers automatically strike me as obsessive and overboard.

I know only three days ago I was walking home in the early evening, and was suddenly ... well lets just say I almost crapped myself because a cop pinged his siren after coasting up RIGHT behind me, nearly on the sidewalk. He then proceeded to interrogate me on the street regarding where I'd come from and where I was going and who I was. He then gave me a line about "looking for someone matching my description" which, excuse me, is a line I've heard from at least five other police in the last two years alone. It's their new trendy "excuse" for instigating inquests. Doesn't leave me with a happy feeling inside when someone in a position of power figures to pick on random Joe by sneaking up and scaring the living s**t out of them.

And his co workers come on by and do the same thing next week....



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19 Feb 2014, 3:42 am

Just when I thought cops couldn't get anymore dense when it comes to the handicapped - - or anyone, for that matter.


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19 Feb 2014, 10:08 am

What a bunch of idiots.
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19 Feb 2014, 6:17 pm

Soccer22 wrote:
Was he wearing hearing aids?? Those are obvious to spot and he could've pointed at them. Something sounds fishy here. Hope he's ok though.

Not everyone who is deaf can use hearing aids. Too expensive or just do not help the person with too profound a hearing loss. I am not deaf but am nonverbal. I am terrified that if I had to encounter Ami police, I would probably be beaten or killed because they would claim I was some sort of threat. Ami police brutality is becoming the norm.



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19 Feb 2014, 10:55 pm

Obvious point. >>>>Pretty ignorant police force there.