NJ teacher risks losing job over witnessing sexual incident

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27 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/0 ... -bathroom/ - The subject name would only permit me to post the above, but what it is trying to say is that a teacher in New Jersey is reportedly risking losing his job reporting an sexual incident that involved two kindergarten students (which involved some fondling and [alleged] wanting to have sexual intercourse). This is just hard to swallow...... what is happening to our kids these days?!


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27 Feb 2014, 6:07 pm

the problem with kids these days is they don't know how to be sneaky or lie. Point of fact they are dumb. Kids this age have been doing this literally forever, only now do they not have the good sense to tell a place where they are likely to get caught from a safe one.


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27 Feb 2014, 6:13 pm

IMO, it's not the majority of kids these days, it's the parents. Most parents now have poor parenting skills in which kids think they can get away with anything just because parents don't know how to discipline their kids properly.


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27 Feb 2014, 6:21 pm

The kids are just too young to know how dirty and awful sex is...

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27 Feb 2014, 6:29 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
IMO, it's not the majority of kids these days, it's the parents. Most parents now have poor parenting skills in which kids think they can get away with anything just because parents don't know how to discipline their kids properly.


remember how young these kids are, it's not like high school kids didling in the bathroom who should know better.

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27 Feb 2014, 6:33 pm

Or maybe its not the fault of the kids or the parents. Heck, maybe it has nothing to do with fault. Maybe its the impossible pressure on kids to measure up to the vague standard of who they ought to be and what they are supposed to be doing. If you think five year olds are somehow immune to all this pressure, you are living in a fantasy world of "innocence". "Oh, but five year olds don't know anything, so that means impossible expectations don't affect them!" Right. Because only adults are influenced by a stressful world. And as far as these kids being too young to understand sex, or should know better...they didn't know what they were doing. And for that matter, why is this so bad? Kids exploring their sexuality. What's gonna happen, a pregnancy?



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27 Feb 2014, 7:06 pm

Mindslave wrote:
Or maybe its not the fault of the kids or the parents. Heck, maybe it has nothing to do with fault. Maybe its the impossible pressure on kids to measure up to the vague standard of who they ought to be and what they are supposed to be doing. If you think five year olds are somehow immune to all this pressure, you are living in a fantasy world of "innocence". "Oh, but five year olds don't know anything, so that means impossible expectations don't affect them!" Right. Because only adults are influenced by a stressful world. And as far as these kids being too young to understand sex, or should know better...they didn't know what they were doing. And for that matter, why is this so bad? Kids exploring their sexuality. What's gonna happen, a pregnancy?


Actually I will say one thing for the conservative side on this one: yeah pretty much. When I started messing around it was really disruptive for my partners and they started neglecting their other responsibilities. So IDK. I want to say it's fine be a free little bird in the wind but on the other hand I know from experience you need to develop the ability to prioritize and allow the ego to win over the id.


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27 Feb 2014, 7:16 pm

Seems like the teacher did everything they were supposed to do, they shouldn't be losing their job. It does need to be explained to the kids that it is not appropriate to be taking off their clothes at school, and/or touch each other in that way. Also it may not necessarily be the parents fault, not saying it isn't, but kids will do dumb, weird stuff. I have a younger brother, he exposed himself on the bus when he was 5, and my mother is VERY modest and strict about that sort of thing (like religiously).
Side note: I felt really bad but I laughed a bit when I read this, mostly because of society, 'cause as I said kids do weird, stupid things and as little harm was done -at least from what the article said, both kids just sounded curious, I mean at that age kids are like Boy, girl, what's the difference? and parents feel too awkward to respond and then that happens. So yeah, a little hilarious that our own embarrassment and passivity as humans leads to bigger problems, again.

PS. Sorry that was a little long and disorganized, but I'm too lazy to edit.



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27 Feb 2014, 9:22 pm

I don't nessisarily see a fault here....kids get curious about things, trying to have sex at 5 is quite strange and they need to learn that its not appropriate at that age and that such behavior could get them into trouble but it should be done in way a 5 year old can understand that wont scar them for life...making them ashamed of every having sexual feelings.

I don't really get why the teacher is possibly getting fired....what exactly did she do wrong, or am I missing something.


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28 Feb 2014, 4:29 pm

I read that the teacher was in trouble for failing to supervise the class correctly, she was in trouble for allowing the two children of different genders to go off into the loo together. Right or wrong that is what I think that she is in trouble for.

The idea of five yearolds wanting to have sex is deeply disturbing, at the age of five I knew nothing about sex it was something which had never crossed my mind.


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28 Feb 2014, 4:58 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
I read that the teacher was in trouble for failing to supervise the class correctly, she was in trouble for allowing the two children of different genders to go off into the loo together. Right or wrong that is what I think that she is in trouble for.


You're right about the stated reason for the trouble, but I think we can all agree that if there was no implication of sex there would be no threat of dismissal. If the kids had gone into the restroom to read a story and avoid the math section of class, for example, there would be no hysterical over-reaction.