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25 Apr 2014, 1:27 pm

Is not all about money, but rather about power. "Those with power have seen that access to uncontrolled information and the ability of people to network is a bigger threat to their power, privilege and wealth than any bombs, guns or protests rallies. "

^^^^^Aint no lie. Glad I do not use mobile device to access internet.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2148301/ ... a-faq.html



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25 Apr 2014, 3:13 pm

that the reason the founding fathers put freedom of speech before the right to bare arms



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25 Apr 2014, 5:05 pm

Popular movements have succeeded in recent history before the internet (Civil Rights movement, anti-Vietnam-War movement, etc). People will eventually organize to protest on a scale sufficient to revive the internet, presumably within the next couple centuries (assuming civilization survives that long).

In the meantime, I will train carrier pigeons to fly over FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler and poop on his head.


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25 Apr 2014, 5:09 pm

as pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." IOW, instead of going out and voting in our best interest, we vote to stick it to somebody else that we look down on. and so we were largely fooled into voting a bunch of sociopathic glad handers into the vest pockets of their wealthy contributors and an oligarchy cum corporatist cabal in control over all of us.



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25 Apr 2014, 5:48 pm

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
Popular movements have succeeded in recent history before the internet (Civil Rights movement, anti-Vietnam-War movement, etc). People will eventually organize to protest on a scale sufficient to revive the internet, presumably within the next couple centuries (assuming civilization survives that long).

In the meantime, I will train carrier pigeons to fly over FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler and poop on his head.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



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25 Apr 2014, 5:50 pm

auntblabby wrote:
as pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." IOW, instead of going out and voting in our best interest, we vote to stick it to somebody else that we look down on. and so we were largely fooled into voting a bunch of sociopathic glad handers into the vest pockets of their wealthy contributors and an oligarchy cum corporatist cabal in control over all of us.


and now they are trying to deny us the right at all, unless we are planning to vote for the glad handers



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25 Apr 2014, 5:53 pm

khaoz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
as pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." IOW, instead of going out and voting in our best interest, we vote to stick it to somebody else that we look down on. and so we were largely fooled into voting a bunch of sociopathic glad handers into the vest pockets of their wealthy contributors and an oligarchy cum corporatist cabal in control over all of us.


and now they are trying to deny us the right at all, unless we are planning to vote for the glad handers

and at least in the states of the old confederacy they will get it, too.



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26 Apr 2014, 1:39 am

...And the American Corporotacracy/Monopoly fails yet again to aim for an ambitious, better future and instead aims for low quality, high price, anti-innovative, no-other-choice options for the masses. Verizon & Comcast just became the gods of the internet.

It's stupid on so many levels. The next Instagram or Facebook won't be happening in the USA if this crap becomes permanent. The American internet will end up like the auto industry in the 1970's. And, as the title of this thread says, there's no way the throttling isn't going to get political.

I don't get why there isn't a huge battle going on between Netflix/Amazon/Google, and Comcast/Verizon. Maybe it hasn't started yet? Couldn't Comcast tell Amazon that they need to turn over 90% of their profits or be cut off from 90% of their users?



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26 Apr 2014, 1:41 am

the people slavering for our descent to a banana republic are within shouting distance of their goal.



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26 Apr 2014, 1:45 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
...And the American Corporotacracy/Monopoly fails yet again to aim for an ambitious, better future and instead aims for low quality, high price, anti-innovative, no-other-choice options for the masses. Verizon & Comcast just became the gods of the internet.

It's stupid on so many levels. The next Instagram or Facebook won't be happening in the USA if this crap becomes permanent. The American internet will end up like the auto industry in the 1970's. And, as the title of this thread says, there's no way the throttling isn't going to get political.

I don't get why there isn't a huge battle going on between Netflix/Amazon/Google, and Comcast/Verizon. Maybe it hasn't started yet? Couldn't Comcast tell Amazon that they need to turn over 90% of their profits or be cut off from 90% of their users?



I think it is because they know that probably over half the people in the US who use the internet could not understand all of this anyway, even if you used an elementary level "Hooked on Phonics" one syllable at a time coloring book to explain it.



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26 Apr 2014, 2:06 am

freedom and ignorance do not long coexist.



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26 Apr 2014, 2:33 am

auntblabby wrote:
freedom and ignorance do not long coexist.


I am glad I don't use a mobile device for internet access. I don't watch movies or play games or doing anything that consumes large quantities data. Hopefully I can minimize the damage I have to suffer through all of this.



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26 Apr 2014, 12:26 pm

What could happen.

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26 Apr 2014, 9:34 pm

chris5000 wrote:
that the reason the founding fathers put freedom of speech before the right to bare arms


Bare arms?



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26 Apr 2014, 11:20 pm

Tollorin wrote:
What could happen.

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IOW accessing the web will be like having to purchase a movie ticket at a theatre, but every site on the web will have a ticket gate. that will kill the web as we know it. it will be back to CB radio for the 99%.



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27 Apr 2014, 5:13 pm

This could actually be pretty good news, in hindsight. If it causes a mass exodus from the internet, and the development of a decentralised alternative using wireless mesh networking...