Shooting Spree in Isla Vista, California

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I still have the feeling that there will be more focus on his Asperger's than his overt misogyny. You can't blame a Nice Guy, after all.

This guy reminds me of a lot of members that post in L&D.

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You are very correct!





I couldn't agree with you more sir!! None of mine exist on paper and it will stay that way!!

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I know a guy who talks like this guy seems to have. I can't say whether or not he's on the autism spectrum, but he's been clinically diagnosed as schizophrenic. Also not sure how that's related to his deranged and self-centered style of talking when off his meds, but it clearly is.

Curious to see whether any information along those lines comes out, given that this kid's father is connected.

Maybe it would have been less traumatic if you and your 'buddy' had ensured that you were awake during the event. Or before it began.

This event has struck a few familiar chords, not all of them pleasant. Rodgers reminds me of myself, when I was in my early-to-mid teens: his brand of resentment and sexual frustration, particularly the manner in which he gave expression to it on his videos, seems eerily reminiscent of my previous childish attitudes. Though that is where the extent of our similarity stops - I would never have allowed myself to fulfil murderous fantasies nor give voice to narcissism - it is close enough to make me feel deeply uncomfortable. He reminds me of how easy it would have been to surrender (life always seems more peaceful, even rejuvenating*, when you stop pushing against a force that you believe is repelling you) and jump down that same abysmal precipice. It was only through sheer good fortune, and possibly a lot of patience, that I encountered a few good people - such as my partner, Daniel - who took me gently in hand and helped to make in me a new clean heart.

* Perhaps this is why Rodgers saw his 'Day of Retribution' (his surrender to the darkness) as an apotheosis: an elevation to god-hood; a relieving of burden.

Now he'll be a virgin for all eternity.

As Nabokov never said, "Our life is but a brief crack of shite between two eternities."

I never watched his final video, or any of the videos he has posted for that matter, but just from reading the script of his last video, I could tell that this guy was an oxygen-stealing, overly-entitled, hateful scumbag. Aspie or not, this guy was an as*hole, and the world is much better off without him. It is unfortunate that he took six innocent people down with him though.

Whilst there's some outliers (such as me and my ability to get the chicks), most of those with AS will be beyond hopeless to make friends and relations.

And it's understandable how it leads to someone becoming a group unto themselves and they blame an entire group for their medically caused failures. Yelling "misogynist" in this case doesn't help, nor is it the reason. And anyone labeling someone with an ASD such because they're disgruntled and venting due to not getting chicks/dudes is wrong -- they can't help it, literally.

This doesn't defend murder, but it's something people shouldn't overlook.

It's easy for therapists to offer advice, but they don't organize or actually do anything tangible for the high functioning folk.

Organizing a date [or dates] for the guy way back may have prevented it.

It's actually good that he died a virgin and that nobody wanted him. Guys like this should never, EVER have a relationship or anything similar. I wouldn't want to confront this horrible person (it was obvious he was horrible) with anyone. Nobody deserves to date such a sicko because he feels lonely.

There's no reason in him. If he'd had sex he'd still be pathologically angry because they weren't pretty enough, or not often enough, or whatever. He'd still be this person.

Sometimes psychopaths get misdiagnosed as aspies (sometimes deliberately, I've seen blog of one who admits doing so because people trust aspies more).

That's what this guy reads as to me - a psychopath (as well as one of these ridiculously entitled so-called "nice guys" who just went a bit further than most in acting out his anger).

It's also easy to think that too.

But what of hate boiling under the surface for ages due to forced social isolation? Even the nicest person can do terrible things when they hit a certain point. You take all social and empathetic contact from a normal person and they'll be a non-functioning mess in short order in the least.

It's going to keep on happening, and the killers are going to be labeled with the same asocial disorders.

And the useless therapy will continue, people will continue to say "ASDs don't mean you're a potential murderer!" (No, they don't, but there's an over-representation in these type of events for those with certain disorders, ASDs included.) People will continue to talk about objects.

Yet, no one is helping the socially isolated people (who don't want to be socially isolated) in tangible ways.

It is not 'yelling "misogynist"', it is observing that a man went on a killing spree because he felt entitled to women, didn't get them, and hated them for it. It is both astounding and depressingly quotidian that his plain, stated reason for his killing is overlooked. Aspergers. Guns. Narcissism. Psychopathy. Loneliness. His dad having been asst director on a film that has violence in it, even. All these will be pondered over before looking at his stated reason, and that the entitlement behind it is not at all rare. It is an applause worthy level of denial.

Organising a date for an entitled misogynist would not have helped matters. What would have helped is him being explained, time and time and time again until he grasped the matter, that he - like every other man - is not entitled to a woman's body.

What do you suggest, then? That people have sex with him ven though they don't want him? (otherwise he'd probably had sex at some point or at least have kissed)

One cannot be forced into social contacts or sex, it has to happen naturally. He could easily pay for one night in Vegas, but he'd still feel like a loser, maybe even more. Same with seeing a therapist who's an NT and gives advice "go out and make friends". Yeah, thanks a-hole.

As for the discussion about the legality of guns... I don't care if they are everywhere and that they've been around for years. That does not make something right. We are responsible for making a better future regardless of the status quo. We are such a violent nation with even more violent origins and that legacy is in the obscene murder rate in this country. Everyone wants to be armed to the teeth because we love our 2nd amendment rights and are so distrustful of each other. If we don't fix our hatred and mistrust amongst ourselves, we are just going to get more retaliatory toward each other and we will suffer until we choose otherwise.