Argh! I can't stand the U.S. Government (Rant)

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I am having one of my regular rants against the U.S. Government and the CIA this time about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v_United_States

when china is the imperial power and the bush doctrine collapses into the dross from which it was born

Bush doctrine is the beginning of the end of America.

It works in the immediate short term (we were in afghanistan within weeks of sept 11).

Doesn't work in the near future (like the consequences right now in Iraq).

Could work in later on (countries like Iran and N. Korea know we mean business).

Might not work later on (Countries like Iran and N. Korea know we are bogged down and can't afford a third war).

Won't work in the long term (new generation is growing up and hating America)

Iraq was a mistake (though we need to stay for now).

I agree with support for anticommunist forces such as the contras, as it prevents us from later on personally getting into armed conflict with the commies. I also think the international court, while well intentioned, is not all that great, and as an American, I expect our country to do what it can. International law is a good idea and should be applied where it can, but ultimately America has to do whats in its best interest. Is AMerica a bully? Yes, it certainly can be. But we are not an evil empire. The fact that we are a beacon for democracy and freedom (or at least used to be before Iraq) means we do have a moral right to follow our own principles before International Law, especailly when interanational law has human rights violators on the human rights watch council (Like Libya for example!).

Another point: every country has a different culture. If we had went into war with Norht Korea rather than Iraq, we would not be seeing an insurgency like we are. Bush Doctrine would have been seen as a success at liberating people from a tyrant. We would have been welcomed. The mistake made was getting involved in the Middle East. Muslims are highly ideological

Look at it this way... If someone in America funded a guerilla force against the government they would be killed - no doubt and when the police come knocking it's not so simple that he can just say 'no' and ignore the police really is it?

of course the united states is gonna do whatever it wants. they know nobody is gonna tell them what to do, so there not gonna listen to no one!

You just wait till the rise of the EU!

What happened to the old-style, "you stay out of our way and we'll stay out of yours" United States? The one that fought against tyranny, that didn't try to create political upheaval in other nations and kill people in the name of "democracy"? The one that wasn't led by paranoid McCarthyists? Ah, hell - did those United States even exist?

The contras and Nicaragua had nothing to do with George W. Bush. Why are people even talking about him in regards to this topic? The Contras were fighting to overthrown the Sandinista Communists.

The reason the United States was involved was because the Sandinistas were sponsored by the Soviet Union. Nicaragua, like Cuba before it, was being used as a revolutionary base for the entire region, most notably El Salvador. (Cuba actually sent troops to fight in Africa) Central America was a major cold war theater. The Cold War was still under way. It didn't really end until Reagan met Gorbachev in Iceland in 1986, but the Soviet Union didn't collapse until later (1990-91).

Why not say? I hate Russia! I hate France! I hate X country! Why always I hate the USA? Other countries do allot of the same "bad" things the US do, if not worse, but they don't have a press or populous that confronts them about it. Why not get angry about the Bahamas putting Cuban refugees into horrible conditions? Why not get angry at Cuba for treating their people so horribly? Why not get angry at the Arab world for killing woman for "honor" purposes?

Shunning gays and killing women are a little different, neither is acceptable behavior, but there is a world of difference.