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28 May 2015, 12:50 pm

http://www.npr.org/2015/05/20/408156948 ... ns-illegal

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Legislation was signed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott after the city of Denton voted to restrict fracking. Denton officials say oil companies should not wield more power than citizens.


http://www.npr.org/2015/05/26/409671989 ... cking-bans
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Oklahoma's governor is deciding whether to sign a bill that prevents communities from banning fracking and other oil and gas activity. Lawmakers were spooked by a voter-approved fracking ban in Texas.


I guess the right is for small government ONLY if it benefits BIG BUSINESS and not the little people. :roll:


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28 May 2015, 4:10 pm

I don't see how this law could stand. It seems illegal to ban cities from making their own laws/rules.

And of course they don't see their own hypocrisy in making such a law lol.


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28 May 2015, 4:58 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
I don't see how this law could stand. It seems illegal to ban cities from making their own laws/rules.

And of course they don't see their own hypocrisy in making such a law lol.

Only if the state laws declared a preemptive effect over local ordinances. But, each state's constitution might make doing so more easy or more difficult.


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29 May 2015, 8:41 am

^^^ That might be true, but the real issue here is that this is being done by ultra-conservative Republic governments who are always preaching about small government and the primacy of personal freedom/rights.

These local governments are expressing the will of the local population. YET, Republicans think it is okay to override the will of the people and impose their will upon them.

It's thoroughly despicable.


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29 May 2015, 4:22 pm

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^^^ That might be true, but the real issue here is that this is being done by ultra-conservative Republic governments who are always preaching about small government and the primacy of personal freedom/rights.

These local governments are expressing the will of the local population. YET, Republicans think it is okay to override the will of the people and impose their will upon them.

It's thoroughly despicable.


Exactly.

It seems that democracy only works for them as long as you're in total agreement with their opinion.


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29 May 2015, 4:34 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
Only if the state laws declared a preemptive effect over local ordinances. But, each state's constitution might make doing so more easy or more difficult.


I'm not really up on a lot of laws. It just doesn't seem right to be able to do when we supposedly live in a democratic society. :)


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29 May 2015, 5:04 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Only if the state laws declared a preemptive effect over local ordinances. But, each state's constitution might make doing so more easy or more difficult.

I'm not really up on a lot of laws. It just doesn't seem right to be able to do when we supposedly live in a democratic society. :)

The constitutional reason we allow states to determine what matters would be pre-empted by their laws over local ordinances is to prevent a patchwork of differing ordinances being enforced throughout the state. Since fracking is generally quite localized, only a few local jurisdictions would be in positions to need a fracking ban. It seems, then, that both sides of this debate in Texas and Oklahoma are overreaching unless the lands on which fracking is performed or desired is under state or federal management.


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