155 Baltimore Police Officers Now Equipped With Body Cams

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26 Oct 2015, 7:29 pm

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html


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26 Oct 2015, 7:42 pm

Good, should be mandatory for all police everywhere and be available with FOIA



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27 Oct 2015, 11:29 am

Police Public Relations: "Unfortunately the incident was not captured on video due to a malfunction of the body cam worn by officer in question."


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27 Oct 2015, 12:14 pm

I think that this is a case of going from one extreme to the other.
Raptor makes a good point with his scenario. If the cops don't want us to see something, they will figure out a way to deny us access to the videos.


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27 Oct 2015, 12:17 pm

Good, now make it a criminal offence for them to turn them off or disable them at the scene of potential crime.



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27 Oct 2015, 1:07 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Good, now make it a criminal offence for them to turn them off or disable them at the scene of potential crime.

It's an electronic device, not a ball-peen hammer. Have you never had an electronic device do weird things?
Prove they actually turned it off.
Prove criminal intent.
Prove the reliability of a device that is in the field, month after month, rain or shine.
Prove the integrity of the device.
etc...

Police body cams are probably a step in the right direction but it's not a fix-all, nor is it foolproof.


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28 Oct 2015, 1:24 pm

Raptor wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Good, now make it a criminal offence for them to turn them off or disable them at the scene of potential crime.

It's an electronic device, not a ball-peen hammer. Have you never had an electronic device do weird things?
Prove they actually turned it off.
Prove criminal intent.
Prove the reliability of a device that is in the field, month after month, rain or shine.
Prove the integrity of the device.
etc...

Police body cams are probably a step in the right direction but it's not a fix-all, nor is it foolproof.


Yes I suppose they would have to attempt to prove all that....then again it would be kind of strange if there is an incident and all the cops involved had their cameras randomly not work or turned off. Usually more than one cop shows up to a police intervention at least one of their body camras should be working otherwise I say its reason to investigate how the handled the case. There are other ways to gather evidence of things than video alone.



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29 Oct 2015, 2:30 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Good, now make it a criminal offence for them to turn them off or disable them at the scene of potential crime.

It's an electronic device, not a ball-peen hammer. Have you never had an electronic device do weird things?
Prove they actually turned it off.
Prove criminal intent.
Prove the reliability of a device that is in the field, month after month, rain or shine.
Prove the integrity of the device.
etc...

Police body cams are probably a step in the right direction but it's not a fix-all, nor is it foolproof.


Yes I suppose they would have to attempt to prove all that....then again it would be kind of strange if there is an incident and all the cops involved had their cameras randomly not work or turned off. Usually more than one cop shows up to a police intervention at least one of their body camras should be working otherwise I say its reason to investigate how the handled the case. There are other ways to gather evidence of things than video alone.


I won't deny that body cams will catch acts that would have gone un-recorded in the past. However, some incidents are responded to by one cop at first then others pile in when the call goes out. When one cop is there for those first critical seconds and has to get into a scuffle that's when there is a golden opportunity for a body cam to have a "malfunction".

Another side to this is that cops could very likely become hesitant to take the gloves off and wade into a situation even when enhanced roughness is actually warranted. John Q. Citizen who was there and saw what was coming down might not have an issue with it but a personal injury attorney representing the "victim" will turn it into something else.
Cops might get too into the cover you ass mode and become ineffective.


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29 Oct 2015, 5:27 pm

Should be interesting as there currently isn't much research on the benefits and risks of implementing this technology in a police force.

Here's a link to one review of five studies carried out in police forces in the UK and the US: https://www.ojpdiagnosticcenter.org/sit ... ameras.pdf

Looks like among the potential benefits is a reduction in violence between officers and civilians, as well as a possible reduction in frivolous civilian complaints. That could reduce stress in the police force and help community relations, if it proves out in larger and better designed studies (or experiments).