Experimental Alzheimers Drug May Also Stop Aging

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13 Nov 2015, 2:02 pm

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/11/ ... 447432253/


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13 Nov 2015, 7:48 pm

Fascinating findings in this article aside,
I followed links and googled down the rabbithole and eventually ended up in a nootropics-user forum (which had links on where to order the substance in question, btw.), and one guy who seemed on a particularly extensive regimen of nootropics mentioned that he was going to add either of two substances to his regimen, but sadly, as the label on the package he was storing in the fridge was in russian, he could not tell which of the two it was.
If anyone who can't be arsed to google the russian label on a pack of white powder in his fridge could plaese eat some of it, daily, I think the world might be a less idiotic place.


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14 Nov 2015, 3:09 am

Stop aging? Like we really don't need to slow the over population of the planet now with people who won't die. :P


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14 Nov 2015, 6:11 am

My father is now an empty shell due to this terrible disease, less than four years ago he was a very healthy man looking forward to retirement after a life of working hard. In his current state he would truly be better off dead.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone, and agree with your sentiments about the ageing population, but is there any other solution?



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14 Nov 2015, 6:54 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
My father is now an empty shell due to this terrible disease, less than four years ago he was a very healthy man looking forward to retirement after a life of working hard. In his current state he would truly be better off dead.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone, and agree with your sentiments about the ageing population, but is there any other solution?


Forgive me for being flippant, please. I agree; no one should have to go through that.


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14 Nov 2015, 6:58 am

It's no big deal Bill. We all say daft things sometimes.



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14 Nov 2015, 7:05 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
It's no big deal Bill. We all say daft things sometimes.


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14 Nov 2015, 11:51 am

Based on the (little) information in the article (not going down the Google hole), I don't think it's going to be the Fountain of Youth.

God forbid that it should. THAT, the human race DOES NOT need. I don't have a problem with life-saving treatment, but I do not believe it is or should be our place to set or countermand the cycles of birth and death. I don't trust us with that capability.

Alzheimer's and related dementias, though, I would very much like to see eliminated. My dad's mother died of dementia (quite literally-- she continued slowly mentally wasting away until so much of her mental function was gone that antipsychotics were necessitated and finished the job). I wouldn't wish that death on anyone, or their loved ones.


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14 Nov 2015, 2:53 pm

My mother has had Alzheimer's for 10 years, and was just recently prescribed an anti-psychotic. If the medicine kills her, that will not be such a terrible thing. She always said this was the one way she did not want to die, and that if she ever got dementia we should shoot her.

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15 Nov 2015, 12:15 am

I was not aware that anti-psychotics eventually lead to death. Did I get that right?


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15 Nov 2015, 9:35 am

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I was not aware that anti-psychotics eventually lead to death. Did I get that right?


For young and healthy people, probably not. For old, weak people with advanced dementia, it's a possibility. I was told the medication might cause my mother to have a stroke. Since she's been staying awake for days at a time talking about murder, though, it seemed like a risk worth taking.



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16 Nov 2015, 8:23 am

They may cause strokes; they also accelerate brain deterioration. In the case of advanced dementia, and sometimes in young healthy people who tolerate them poorly. If you're young and healthy and tolerating them well, you don't need to worry.

When the person in question is staying awake for days at a time talking about murder, though (Grandma was irretrievably convinced we were all planning to kill her and becoming violent in perceived self-defense, that was what tipped it over in her case), it might be better if they die faster (and docile-- this is an issue of safety, not convenience).

If you have any control over the situation, YippySkippy, when she starts screaming every time people turn or touch her, get her on morphine posthaste.

This also will kill her faster (and you are correct-- at this point, that's something to hope for for her sake). It's worth it. The large muscle pain that comes with atypical antipsychotics a fair bit of the time isn't something that should be ignored.


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16 Nov 2015, 5:21 pm

Thanks for the advice, BuyerBeware. My mother was always a determined, outspoken, high-energy woman. Now she's a determined, high-energy crazy lady who doesn't recognize anyone and is a fall risk. It's a nightmare.