What are the causes of recent swarm of immigrants to Europe?

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Hi Everyone,

I would assume that most of you won't be familiar with events in Europe right now, but I will give it a shot. Europe is flooded now with immigration mostly from Syria, Iraq and other Middle East countries. These numbers come in thousands per day and many countries like Greece, Macedonia, Italy and other countries struggle to control their borders. Estonia, Hungary and Slovakia are building wall on their borders. Most of those immigrants are Muslim.

Does anyone have any idea of why is this happening? Normally I have no problem figuring out what causes events, but this time this all is so complex, including situation in the Middle East.

Da'esh

This is happening in Canada and the US too.

But in Europe the population of each country is supposed to be pure.

With the Muslimification of Europe, Canada, and the US, it will look more like Africa by 2050. White people will be a minority by that time. So to help keep the flood waters at bay, Caucasian people need to start making more babies, or we will be decimated/eliminated by the newer folk.

This is not a good thing.

The European immigrants who settled in Canada in the early 20th century WORKED on farmland given, for FREE, to them, as long as they worked the land (crops) and riased livestock.

The newer immigrants are a drain because, while some of them have professional degrees from their home country, they cannot practice their trade in the new country.

The Muslim immigrants, especially the women, do not respect the culture of the West in how they dress. They still want to wear covers over their face (burka / hijab) and they don't need to do that here.

So there is a clash in values.

As an ASpie, I find it very overwhelming to say the least of my hometown of Winnipeg, Canada having many many many immigrants who are coming from these African countries, where there are NO JOBS for them, our public transport is under capacity because our City Council has not given more funds for more buses (we have no rail transit here ).

There is not enough housing to house everyone, so the Rental vacancy is < 1%...Most newer blocks are Condos. not Apartments... So the new immigrants drive up the cost of Rental housing for everyone.... Used to be able to rent a 1 Bdrm. space for $400 here...Now it's almost double that.

So I can see that there is a lot of resentment towards the new immigrants.

In Germany some citizens are protesting with their feet. Some have recently burned down a housing unit that was meant for new immigrants. Merkel has called these people who burned that building certain names.

https://startpage.com/do/search?q=germa ... nt+housing

It's all a mess.

This has not been true for hundreds of years.

They are fleeing poverty, war, and political turmoil caused by Islam.

Very little of this is true.

Europe has been subject to wave after wave of migration since ancient Roman times, leaving very few "pure" populations left outside of Ireland and Iceland.

Secondly birthrates for the immigrants also dropped like brick in the second generation to below that of the native populations.

In the U.S. "white" people are have a higher birthrate than any other group currently, with minorities birth rates plunging harder and faster including middle easterners and "Hispanics (including European, Asian and African Hispanics).
Though the "white" birthrate fluctuates depending on how you define white.

Canada's birthrate has always been extremely low for Western country and immigration has not raised the birthrate by any significant numbers.

As for Europe:

UK Birthrate is inching up, due to mainly native British having more kids and lesser extent other Europeans coming to the UK to have their kids (the UK has good affordable birthing costs).

France birthrate up ticking is caused by native French having more kids

Ireland's birthrate is increasing due to native Irish having more kids.

Germany birthrate inched up due to native Germans having more kids and those of German descent immigrating back to German to have families.
The immigrants in Germany have less kids on average than their native German counterparts.

This is being repeated in the EU as a whole.

The vast majority of immigrants in Europe are from other EU countries due to free movement of people.
The majority of immigrants from outside of Europe are from the former Spanish and British colonies including the U.S. and Canada being of European descent.

The global birthrate is dropping like a huge brick in nearly every country of the world, except for a few African countries.

As of 2014 the global birth rate is 2.47 kids per woman, dropping each year.
When it drops below 2.1, then global population increase will be negative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ility_rate



Nearly all the blue countries are having 1-2 kids on average.
While the neon green countries are having 2-3 kids on average.

Literally every populated continent except for Africa is seeing a practically non existent population growth/marginally low growth (North America, South America, and Oceania) or negative growth (Asia and Europe)

Eastern Europe Birth rate is lower by far than Western Europe, rivaling that of SE Asia.
China has the fastest dropping Birth rate overall, with Japan, South Korea, Germany, and Eastern Europe to follow.

Those fleeing Africa are due to war, famine, disease, lack of jobs, corrupt governments, religious strife, etc...
With Libya experiencing internal strife, it makes it easier for people to attempt the crossing to Europe.
Those fleeing Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are obviously war and hostile border nations who's populations are actively showing aggression to them.

Many if not most will be denied asylum and deported from Europe.
EU will definitely clamp down soon, probably by year's end to put an end to mass migrations.

Basically, western nations have destabilised the region in order to better control the oil market leading to a huge rich/poor divide and a power vacuum that has been filled by various insurgent groups. These people are fleeing from the hell that our governments have created.

This too.

A lot of this is a direct result of the cold war.

Europe has long gotten a steady stream of migrants from the Middle and North Africa, just like the US gets that from Latin America.

But the OP is asking why the sudden huge spike in migrants flooding in to Europe (via both land and sea) from western asia and Africa.

Obviously its caused by the recent upward spike in disorder and in war following the Arab Spring. Libya is still in upheavel, Syria's all out civil wars continues, and has now spread into Iraq. Iraq is coming apart at the ethnic and sectarian seams. On top of that ISIS is doing genocide and ethnic cleansing. All of that is driving refugees westward. Failed statehood is spreading.

I agree with most of what you said, except for this. If life expectancy continues to rise, the 2.1 threshold may not stop increased population. People have to die in the same amount as they are born to stabilize population growth at 0. The equation must be balanced on both sides, not just one.

Like I said above-its the sudden collapse of order in the Muslim ME, and North Africa. The two obvious points of entry into Europe from the regions are: are via land via south east Europe, or across the Mediterranean sea. That's why countries in south east Europe are starting build walls, and also why so many refugees are drowning in rickety boats in the Mediterranean.

Right now in most countries the death rate is about equal to if not slightly greater than the birth rate.
Life expectancy in these countries are already on par with the developed world ranging between 70-85+.
Life expectancy has leveled in most developed countries with some seeing slight decreases due to the current life styles.

I don't see any significant rise in life expectancy in the near future unless the genetic component is solved.

We are looking at the global population leveling between 8-9 billion.

I do not share that optimism, at all. Had we been having this discussion in 1950 those numbers would have leveled at about 5-6 billion by around 1990, but in the 1960's and 70's we had a mini agricultural revolution that allowed us to increase population even further. I'll put my money on the trend, not the current dot on the chart, and the trend since the dawn of civilization is an increase in population.

I live in the Dominican Republic and we have problems with over a million illegal Haitians swarming over the border. I think that it is a similar problem to Europe except that what Bush and Blair did to destabilize the countries in the middle east didn't help.
The Haitians had massive population growth in the recent past. They have no education. If you ask them if the world is full, they think you are stupid. The guys try to get an ego boost from having a lot of kids. Some will brag having over 30 children. I went for a job recently with a guy who kept bragging about his 12 kids by 10 different women. He kept trying to borrow money. They don't get married. The women keep popping them out. After the huge earthquake in Port au Prince there was a population explosion as the poor women had more babies in the hope that they would get guys to give them food or money.
They complain that it is the governments fault for not supplying enough jobs.
I have a Haitian guy in my apartment right now. He had a bad accident and used all his money in hospital. He is looking for work but like he said there are so many Haitians in the area. We will feed him till he gets back on his feet.

More than half of the population growth predicted between now and 2050 is expected in Africa, where the number of people is set to more than double, from 1.1 billion to 2.4 billion. Africa's population will continue to rise even if there is a future drop in the average number of children each woman has, says the report, which predicts the number of people living on the continent could reach 4.2 billion (or more than 35% of total global population) by 2100.
I guess that there will be 3 billion people trying to get into England for benefits.

My question was more specifically: whose political interest lies in the current wave of migration to Europe? Because it is not a coincidence and it looks like an organised action. Shipping so many people across the sea definitely involves a lot of money and organisation. Recently I have read that Austrian intelligence report that US turned now away from investing into rebel in Ukrainie and instead spends millions of dollars on trafficking immigrants to Europe. Obviously, in politics there are no morals, and sometimes your ally is better weak because it is easier to control.

Also, when Macedonia put their army on the borders to stop the swarm, UN pressured the government to let them in. The fact that Greece does not control its borders is clear, but their government's interest in weakening Europe may be in line with their Russian ally interests. But the problem is internal. Germany pressures Polish government to take on more immigrants, German media aggressively attacks Poland for not having the same problems with immigrants and yet not taking them in, points this out as lack of solidarity. A few countries, such as Hungary or Australia have governments that look after their national interest during crisis, say no to immigration and focus on building their countries strong.

But generally, US, EU, UN, equalities industry and human rights industry are sabotaging Europe from inside. Why? What interest do they have in it? Because letting them in does not help Europe nor does it solve problems in their countries: