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03 Feb 2016, 4:08 pm

CNN: Trump accuses Cruz of stealing Iowa caucuses

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"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it," Trump tweeted. "That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated."


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Cruz then added, "Yet another #Trumpertantrum... @realDonaldTrump very angry w/the people of Iowa. They actually looked at his record."


I think it's time for Trump to head for the Great Egress.



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03 Feb 2016, 9:13 pm

To be fair Cruz and his team did tell Iowa voters that Carson was dropping out of the race as they came to vote.
He claimed CNN reported it.
Carson's wife was told this as well by a Cruz campaign worker when she went to vote in her local Iowa precinct.

He also sent this out to the voters in Iowa

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Cruz and his team have defend their borderline illegal behavior claiming they were using CNN for their Carson news.
CNN today on air debunked Cruz, reiterating what they reported stating they have no idea where Cruz got his information from.

Cruz also stated he doesn't know where the pictured mailers came from and why it has name on it.
He claims he has no knowledge of the mailers, as does anyone in his campaign.

So either CNN and voters are lying about what happen or Cruz needs to be punished for what he did in Iowa!

Trump and others (it's not just him) should press the issue and try to have Iowa nulled and Cruz punished for this most likely illegal behavior.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:17 pm

I'd like to see Rubio vs. Sanders.



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03 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

^Me too. I think Rubio is the lesser evil of all the other GOP nightmares --and Sanders is the best the Dems have to offer.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:32 pm

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^Me too. I think Rubio is the lesser evil of all the other GOP nightmares --and Sanders is the best the Dems have to offer.

I know you're not supposed to say women shouldn't shout, but I've said it about Sanders too. She needs to stop shouting. We can all hear her. Rubio does seem the best of the Republicans. I could see him being a good President too. And Sanders, well you can't beat a grumpy old Jewish guy. I love that he has the youth vote.



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03 Feb 2016, 9:44 pm

Here's the deal.
Rubio isn't white and religious enough to survive the GOP base.
There is no way the GOP gives the nomination to a non white person (he's latino/Cuban).

Sanders isn't even a registered Democrat.
He's ran as an independent every election until now.
He's still refusing to register as a Democrat.

Oh he is open about being a Socialist and a Jew, which American really don't like.
He wants full GOVERNMENT take over of the healthcare system, turning into single payer system.
He wants to take an axe to the military and shrink it and it's budget significantly.
He wants mass regulation of the economy and nationalization of wall street.
He is also open about being unwilling to wheel and deal in order to get stuff done (he will be more useless than Carter).
His base of support is mainly white males, who have money.
Minorities and Gays cannot stand him, thus they won't vote in general if he wins.


Oh he also went to the USSR for his honeymoon.


Hillary actually knows how to get stuff through Congress and most of the serving members of Congress.
Hillary will be able to get women and minorities

Trump owes nothing to no one, due to funding this campaign on his own.
Thus special interests have nothing on him.
He also is most popular with the GOP base.


If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, it will lead to a landslide victory for the GOP in the Congress and the presidency.
It's literally handing the GOP the Federal Government on an jewel encrusted platter.

The Democratic base will not turn out in full force to support Sanders, because he doesn't care for minorities and gays and they feel the same way about him.

There literally is not enough white male Democratic voters to offset the lose of everyone else and to prevent a GOP victory.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:47 pm

xenocity wrote:
Rubio isn't white and religious enough to survive the GOP base.
There is no way the GOP gives the nomination to a non white person (he's latino/Cuban).

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think Rubio's the best bet.



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03 Feb 2016, 9:50 pm

androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Rubio isn't white and religious enough to survive the GOP base.
There is no way the GOP gives the nomination to a non white person (he's latino/Cuban).

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think Rubio's the best bet.

Rubio doesn't even have answers to the questions in the debates.
He just rambles and mumbles when is asked questions about the issues.

He was already horrible Senator, who refused to support the very immigration reform bill he co-wrote, once the conservatives went after him for co-writing it.

Today he won't even talk about that bill existence, because he knows how badly the GOP voters hate it.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:58 pm

xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Rubio isn't white and religious enough to survive the GOP base.
There is no way the GOP gives the nomination to a non white person (he's latino/Cuban).

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think Rubio's the best bet.

Rubio doesn't even have answers to the questions in the debates.
He just rambles and mumbles when is asked questions about the issues.

He was already horrible Senator, who refused to support the very immigration reform bill he co-wrote, once the conservatives went after him for co-writing it.

Today he won't even talk about that bill existence, because he knows how badly the GOP voters hate it.


Well, he is young. However, Trump and Cruz are not viable. Trump because of the obvious - he's a narcissistic, pouty, flip-flopper. He'll sell the states out. Cruz is too religious and stubborn. Rubio is the best bet to defeat the Democrats. I don't think either Hilary or Bernie will win against anyone but Trump. There's too much resentment against Obama.



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03 Feb 2016, 10:03 pm

androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Rubio isn't white and religious enough to survive the GOP base.
There is no way the GOP gives the nomination to a non white person (he's latino/Cuban).

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think Rubio's the best bet.

Rubio doesn't even have answers to the questions in the debates.
He just rambles and mumbles when is asked questions about the issues.

He was already horrible Senator, who refused to support the very immigration reform bill he co-wrote, once the conservatives went after him for co-writing it.

Today he won't even talk about that bill existence, because he knows how badly the GOP voters hate it.


Well, he is young. However, Trump and Cruz are not viable. Trump because of the obvious - he's a narcissistic, pouty, flip-flopper. He'll sell the states out. Cruz is too religious and stubborn. Rubio is the best bet to defeat the Democrats. I don't think either Hilary or Bernie will win against anyone but Trump. There's too much resentment against Obama.

The resentment against Obama is primarily in the South and in GOP held areas.
Obama's approval rating is above 50% and going up due to recovering economy and quickly dropping energy and gas prices.

More of the country refuses to vote GOP, than resents Obama, thus being favorable to the Democrats.

Trump is the best bet for the GOP to sweep the election, because he is quite popular with the public as a whole.
He's a RINO!

Cruz is only popular with religious conservatives and he would have to have the courts rule on his citizenship due to his Canadian birth.

Hillary is the most recognized name in politics and is the most popular politician in the country next to her husband.
She will carry the Democrats to victory in the general and help them regain control of both houses of Congress, if not a Super Majority in the Senate.

Like I posted Sanders is only popular with white males who have money and almost no one else.


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03 Feb 2016, 10:15 pm

If Trump wins, the world is f*ck*d. He is a businessman. I'm sure he'd do wonders for the economy, but he'd screw up otherwise. He's making overtures to Putin for heaven's sake.



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03 Feb 2016, 10:26 pm

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If Trump wins, the world is f*ck*d. He is a businessman. I'm sure he'd do wonders for the economy, but he'd screw up otherwise. He's making overtures to Putin for heaven's sake.

Thankfully Congress holds the power and the GOP leadership hates him to the point of trying to legally bar him from the nomination.


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03 Feb 2016, 10:53 pm

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Oh he is open about being a Socialist and a Jew, which American really don't like.
He wants full GOVERNMENT take over of the healthcare system, turning into single payer system.
He wants to take an axe to the military and shrink it and it's budget significantly.
He wants mass regulation of the economy and nationalization of wall street.
He is also open about being unwilling to wheel and deal in order to get stuff done (he will be more useless than Carter).
His base of support is mainly white males, who have money.
Minorities and Gays cannot stand him, thus they won't vote in general if he wins.


Oh he also went to the USSR for his honeymoon.


Hillary actually knows how to get stuff through Congress and most of the serving members of Congress.
Hillary will be able to get women and minorities


The hell you talking about? Sanders has most young women on his side. White males my ass. I'm one of the minority white males who is for him and I definitely don't have money. Hilary's supporters are largely middle age to elderly, white, and of upper middle class to rich status. I know I went to my caucus, it was literally that clear. Hilary's campaign sure does love to lie, I guess that what happens when its leader is a snake.

You also throw the word socialist around a lot. Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a socialist of the last century that everyone thinks is the boogeyman.



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03 Feb 2016, 11:12 pm

Not TrusTED, more like #BusTED



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03 Feb 2016, 11:54 pm

If Trump behaves like this during a primary, just imagine how he'd be losing a national election. Or, if the unthinkable happens, and Trump gets elected, just imagine how he'd handle a reversal in congress, or in foreign affairs.
Sort of trapped between the proverbial rock and the hard place when it comes to the two current Republican front runners - Trump is a narcissistic buffoon, while Cruz is just plain evil and heartless.
Incidentally, for all the Republican ballyhooing about having a more inclusive group of candidates this time around, with two Latinos, the truth is, most of those Latino Americans are of Mexican extraction. And while most white Republicans can't tell the difference between the two, Mexican Americans surely can, and they usually don't see Cubans as their kith and kin.


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04 Feb 2016, 12:24 am

Feyokien wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Oh he is open about being a Socialist and a Jew, which American really don't like.
He wants full GOVERNMENT take over of the healthcare system, turning into single payer system.
He wants to take an axe to the military and shrink it and it's budget significantly.
He wants mass regulation of the economy and nationalization of wall street.
He is also open about being unwilling to wheel and deal in order to get stuff done (he will be more useless than Carter).
His base of support is mainly white males, who have money.
Minorities and Gays cannot stand him, thus they won't vote in general if he wins.


Oh he also went to the USSR for his honeymoon.


Hillary actually knows how to get stuff through Congress and most of the serving members of Congress.
Hillary will be able to get women and minorities


The hell you talking about? Sanders has most young women on his side. White males my ass. I'm one of the minority white males who is for him and I definitely don't have money. Hilary's supporters are largely middle age to elderly, white, and of upper middle class to rich status. I know I went to my caucus, it was literally that clear. Hilary's campaign sure does love to lie, I guess that what happens when its leader is a snake.

You also throw the word socialist around a lot. Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a socialist of the last century that everyone thinks is the boogeyman.

Not according to the all voter research data and news survey showing who's backing him.
The national support for Sanders is almost entirely straight young white men born in the 1990s.
The Federal Election Commission states the majority of his donors are also young white males born in the 1990s.

The biggest reason why those who voted for him instead of Hillary said they voted for him because he was a man.
The biggest reason hurting Hillary in Iowa according to voter surveys, was that she is a woman[b]

The surveys done, shows the majority of Iowans want the next president to be man not a woman.

Though it is no big secret that Iowa is a heavily conservative state that always chooses men over women in politics.

[b]Literally if Hillary was a man, Iowa would have been a clean sweep for Clinton.


Sanders by every piece of research as survey shows him driving women, non whites, latinos, and everyone else way.
This is why he is screwed once the other states start voting.


According to polls, Sanders is hurting himself by using the word socialist.
Calling for a single payer system is also damaging him on a national stage without any help from Hillary campaign.
He also declared his hate for Capitalism on top of it all.

Americans are deathly afraid of Sanders completing the government take over of healthcare.


This is all the polls from the DNC, RNC, Independent, and others.

It is shameful that he is using the Democrats to become president when he refuses to become a registered Democrat.




FYI I don't like Hillary Clinton and I don't vote in primaries.
Though at least she is a Democrat unlike Sanders who only decided to run a Democrat because he couldn't hack it as an Independent candidate.
I think it is extremely shameful that Sanders abandoned his independent position, only to use the Democrats to get his way.
He doesn't like political parties.

Also Sanders lies as much as Hillary does, but no one has the balls to call him out because they are afraid of being seen as anti semitic.

I hope Bloomberg announces his campaign and keeps his promise of stopping Sanders, Trump, and Cruz.


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