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09 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm

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Kansas City, Mo. — A Mexican national suspected of killing his neighbor and three other men at his neighbor's Kansas home before killing another man about 170 miles away in Missouri was captured early Wednesday, authorities said.

Pablo Antonio Serrano-Vitorino, 40, was captured without resisting shortly before 12:30 a.m. Wednesday following a manhunt. He was found hiding face-down in a ditch about two or three miles from the scene of the last killing, which happened Tuesday morning at a rural home near New Florence, a small community about 70 miles west of St. Louis, said Lt. Paul Reinsch of the Missouri State Highway Patrol.

Serrano-Vitorino, who has been living in Kansas City, Kansas, was caught shortly after someone called the authorities to report that he had fled from an armed man who had approached him, the patrol said.

Serrano Vitorino is in the country illegally, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement. He was deported from the U.S. in April 2004 and illegally re-entered the country sometime later. ICE said it would place a detainer on Serrano-Vitorino.

When he was captured, Serrano-Vitorino had an assault-style rifle with him, said John Ham, a regional spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He said he didn't know if the gun was used in the attacks, and that agents were trying to determine how he acquired the weapon.

"If he was in the country illegally, and that certainly appears to be the case, it would have been illegal for him to have a firearm under federal law," Ham said.


an act of love huh



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09 Mar 2016, 10:21 pm

My Ma told me about this story last night. I've been too busy lately for the news. So they finally caught him. Good to know. I guess Trump was right about the Mexican illegals. Here's another example with Trump actually talking about another Mexican illegal immigrant killing a woman out in San Francisco last year:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07 ... ed-by.html


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09 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm

Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?


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09 Mar 2016, 11:19 pm

Yes, but that doesn't make it right. These people would still be alive otherwise. Every murder counts.


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09 Mar 2016, 11:21 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?

Call me a hard hearted conservative but something about "illegals" and "quiet lives" just doesnt jibe.
Now I'll just sit quietly and wait for the rest of the 3 ring circus to show up.


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09 Mar 2016, 11:33 pm

actually, folks without documents commit less crime per capita than citizens. it's just a fact.



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09 Mar 2016, 11:41 pm

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actually, folks without documents commit less crime per capita than citizens. it's just a fact.

Being on this side of the border illegally is a crime itself.


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09 Mar 2016, 11:43 pm

point taken. doesn't negate that undocumented folks aren't the threat they're made out to be.



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10 Mar 2016, 12:15 am

An illegal who commits any crime should be deported immediately either after their sentence whatever that may be or whenever they're supposed to be released to the street, you bring yourself up on radar then you got to go. If you are someone who was once deported then reenters the country, how about a 5 year mandatory prison sentence? I believe that is what the sentence is for illegally entering Mexico ironically enough. These are foreign nationals, citizens of another country, there are people responsible for them. Any time some American commits a murder overseas we hear about it, of course it happens so rarely compared the citizens of certain other countries.



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10 Mar 2016, 12:20 am

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An illegal who commits any crime should be deported immediately either after their sentence whatever that may be or whenever they're supposed to be released to the street, you bring yourself up on radar then you got to go. If you are someone who was once deported then reenters the country, how about a 5 year mandatory prison sentence? I believe that is what the sentence is for illegally entering Mexico ironically enough. These are foreign nationals, citizens of another country, there are people responsible for them. Any time some American commits a murder overseas we hear about it, of course it happens so rarely compared the citizens of certain other countries.


Forget the deport - he already was deported and snuck back in. I say since he killed people, give him the death penalty and get rid of him.


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10 Mar 2016, 12:31 am

Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?

Call me a hard hearted conservative but something about "illegals" and "quiet lives" just doesnt jibe.
Now I'll just sit quietly and wait for the rest of the 3 ring circus to show up.

That's what my niece said,the one who is Border Patrol near Brownsville.She knows more about it than I do.
Just a funny story she told,it involves one of the dogs.Usually the dogs that work with the officers are very well trained,they never take off on their own.Her partner's dog did,so they went looking for him.They found him sitting on top of someone who had just crossed illegally.The dog made its own bust.lol I guess the guy saw the dog and knew the game was over and just laid down and surrendered.
According to her they make the best neighbor's,they never cause problems like loud music and being a nuisance.They don't want the cops called on them,then they get deported.Of course this isn't true about 100% of all,but nothing ever is.But most that just want an honest living and a chance don't go around shooting people.We have enough citizens that are doing that.Just look at school shootings,how many illegals took part in those?


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10 Mar 2016, 1:01 am

Misslizard wrote:
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Misslizard wrote:
Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?

Call me a hard hearted conservative but something about "illegals" and "quiet lives" just doesnt jibe.
Now I'll just sit quietly and wait for the rest of the 3 ring circus to show up.

That's what my niece said,the one who is Border Patrol near Brownsville.She knows more about it than I do.
Just a funny story she told,it involves one of the dogs.Usually the dogs that work with the officers are very well trained,they never take off on their own.Her partner's dog did,so they went looking for him.They found him sitting on top of someone who had just crossed illegally.The dog made its own bust.lol I guess the guy saw the dog and knew the game was over and just laid down and surrendered.
According to her they make the best neighbor's,they never cause problems like loud music and being a nuisance.They don't want the cops called on them,then they get deported.Of course this isn't true about 100% of all,but nothing ever is.But most that just want an honest living and a chance don't go around shooting people.We have enough citizens that are doing that.Just look at school shootings,how many illegals took part in those?


It's not an honest living since its illegal labor in a country they're not supposed to be in. Some are good people, some are bad, there definitely is a crime and drug problem coming over our border and some of these people are very very bad people since Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries in the world where justice is rarely served. A lot of these Central American gangs have been causing issues who are almost entirely illegals, the cartels operate drug corridors with paramilitary death squads. It isn't safe to go into the mountains near my parents at night because that is smack dab in the middle of that corridor. They even traffic during the day thru and extensive scouting and look out system, they caught like 75 of them here going thru the mountains not too long ago.



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10 Mar 2016, 12:59 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?

Call me a hard hearted conservative but something about "illegals" and "quiet lives" just doesnt jibe.
Now I'll just sit quietly and wait for the rest of the 3 ring circus to show up.

That's what my niece said,the one who is Border Patrol near Brownsville.She knows more about it than I do.
Just a funny story she told,it involves one of the dogs.Usually the dogs that work with the officers are very well trained,they never take off on their own.Her partner's dog did,so they went looking for him.They found him sitting on top of someone who had just crossed illegally.The dog made its own bust.lol I guess the guy saw the dog and knew the game was over and just laid down and surrendered.
According to her they make the best neighbor's,they never cause problems like loud music and being a nuisance.They don't want the cops called on them,then they get deported.Of course this isn't true about 100% of all,but nothing ever is.But most that just want an honest living and a chance don't go around shooting people.We have enough citizens that are doing that.Just look at school shootings,how many illegals took part in those?


It's not an honest living since its illegal labor in a country they're not supposed to be in. Some are good people, some are bad, there definitely is a crime and drug problem coming over our border and some of these people are very very bad people since Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries in the world where justice is rarely served. A lot of these Central American gangs have been causing issues who are almost entirely illegals, the cartels operate drug corridors with paramilitary death squads. It isn't safe to go into the mountains near my parents at night because that is smack dab in the middle of that corridor. They even traffic during the day thru and extensive scouting and look out system, they caught like 75 of them here going thru the mountains not too long ago.

I have no problem with Border Patrol grabbing cartel drug runners or human traffickers.The majority of the meth in this country is now produced by the cartel,no more mom and pop labs.I wish they could stop the flow of it,such a nasty drug.
I'm sure the corruption there is why some people flee,if I thought my family might get whacked by the cartel I'd pack up and leave.Its an act of desperation to leave your home and everything you have ever know and go somewhere new where you don't speak the language.So I feel compassionate n for the illegals that are here quietly,just trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.Of course the ones that commit crimes should be sent back,but there's really no good way to keep them from just crossing back over .


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10 Mar 2016, 1:17 pm

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I have no problem with Border Patrol grabbing cartel drug runners or human traffickers.The majority of the meth in this country is now produced by the cartel,no more mom and pop labs.I wish they could stop the flow of it,such a nasty drug.
I'm sure the corruption there is why some people flee,if I thought my family might get whacked by the cartel I'd pack up and leave.Its an act of desperation to leave your home and everything you have ever know and go somewhere new where you don't speak the language.So I feel compassionate n for the illegals that are here quietly,just trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.Of course the ones that commit crimes should be sent back,but there's really no good way to keep them from just crossing back over .


It's very easy to have compassion when it doesn't personally effect you and it's out of sight, Arizona is a border state and it's a serious problem here and it causes problems in major metropolitan area but only for a certain class of people the suits in Washington like to say they care about but really don't.

This isn't a hard problem to solve, it's just something that needs the wherewithal to do and compared to our adventures overseas which only got us thousands of dead and wounded Americans and trillions in debt while making us less safe. We got to the moon, Eisenhower actually did the same thing with way less resources.

There are 7 billion people on this planet and if given a choice, probably 4 billion would move to the US or Europe and if we allowed then it cease being a US or western civilization. Most of these people are far worse conditions then that in Mexico which is a very rich country but with incredible inequality. These people have homes, they have leaders, they need to stand up for their rights and the US finally standing up to the corrupt Mexican government that is bleeding us dry would be the best thing that ever happened to that country. We need to take care of America that is suffering, not the rest of the world.



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10 Mar 2016, 1:25 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Most illegals live very quit lives,always in fear of La Migra.
So two illegals killed some people.How many US citizens have also committed murder?


Well I know at least one U.S citizen murdererd some people recently, an Uber driver I believe, thus it's correct to assume Uber drivers are murderers.

Also, all of us with aspergers are mass shooters since at least one of them had aspergers, because if you've met one aspie you've met them all.

Hmmm, yeah something just isn't adding up with this sort of logic.


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10 Mar 2016, 1:39 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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I have no problem with Border Patrol grabbing cartel drug runners or human traffickers.The majority of the meth in this country is now produced by the cartel,no more mom and pop labs.I wish they could stop the flow of it,such a nasty drug.
I'm sure the corruption there is why some people flee,if I thought my family might get whacked by the cartel I'd pack up and leave.Its an act of desperation to leave your home and everything you have ever know and go somewhere new where you don't speak the language.So I feel compassionate n for the illegals that are here quietly,just trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.Of course the ones that commit crimes should be sent back,but there's really no good way to keep them from just crossing back over .


It's very easy to have compassion when it doesn't personally effect you and it's out of sight, Arizona is a border state and it's a serious problem here and it causes problems in major metropolitan area but only for a certain class of people the suits in Washington like to say they care about but really don't.

This isn't a hard problem to solve, it's just something that needs the wherewithal to do and compared to our adventures overseas which only got us thousands of dead and wounded Americans and trillions in debt while making us less safe. We got to the moon, Eisenhower actually did the same thing with way less resources.

There are 7 billion people on this planet and if given a choice, probably 4 billion would move to the US or Europe and if we allowed then it cease being a US or western civilization. Most of these people are far worse conditions then that in Mexico which is a very rich country but with incredible inequality. These people have homes, they have leaders, they need to stand up for their rights and the US finally standing up to the corrupt Mexican government that is bleeding us dry would be the best thing that ever happened to that country. We need to take care of America that is suffering, not the rest of the world.


It's not just the Mexican government that has its flaws....there is also all that cartel and drug related corruption south of the border as well. How does a regular person successfully stand up to that, especially if they're an impoverished Mexican citizen? I imagine it's easy for americans who don't have to deal with cartel run areas or the chance of being gunned down or maimed from being at the wrong place at the wrong time on a regular basis to say 'they just have to stand up for their rights'.

Also if you think its Mexico that's the biggest drain of this Nations wealth think again, just another distraction from the weathy elite 1% who are the real ones bleeding us dry. I guess if everyone gets all riled up about mexico then the wealthy elite can just keep keeping on like they always do which includes their part in the conditions of mexico since Corporate exploitation by U.S corporations runs rampant south of the border as well. It will be great the wealthy elite can keep sucking the common people dry, whilst still exploiting people in mexico as well as illegals here and south America so that it remains a 3rd world area while having everyone convinced its the Mexicans bleeding us dry via their puppet government.

And just to make sure I have this right, you are saying if someone is directly effected by illegal immigration, than its inappropriate for them to have any compassion towards illegal immigrants regardless of circumstances. The problem is when you decide its easier to stop looking at a group of humans as humans typically very inhumane 'solutions' follow...compassion is important when it comes to issues like this.


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