Key GOP members won't endorse or attend the convention...

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/ ... p-nominee/

It's official The last Republican President George W. Bush aka W will not endorse and attend the GOP convention, to protest and pressure the GOP to give the nomination to someone else.

His parents are also have turned down an invitation to appear at the convention citing the GOP giving Trump the nomination.

The last two GOP nominees Mittens (Romney) and McCain are demanding that Trump not be allowed to have the nomination and both are snubbing the convention in protest.

Other parts of the GOP establishment are also refusing to endorse and back Trump.

Lastly Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Paul Ryan expressed concern and disappointment that the GOP are allowing Trump to get the nomination.
He isn't ready to endorse and back Trump as of now.

Wow!

You would think that the populist upstart would have started a third party.

But Trump has forced the GOP old guard to leave their own party.

Maybe Mitt, the Bushes, McCain, et al, will actually start a third party of their own.

How many times had the GOP establishment told us that Trump would self destruct, and would never get close to the nomination? Trump is their Frankenstein monster, a creation of the lunatic fringe they themselves had encouraged for their own ends, but thought they could then ignore after they were finished with said lunatic fringe. Trump is going to be their candidate because they lost control of their own creation, and now are at a loss of what to do.

They aren't brazen or dumb enough to start their own party, because the donors and voters will not follow them.
They also don't want to severe ties with party either.

It is perhaps most illustrative that Paul Ryan - the highest ranking Republican politician in the US and second in the United States presidential line of succession - is refusing to back Trump so far.

But at age 46, Paul Ryan still has a potentially long political career ahead of him. And Ryan may be counting on ... with some justification... that it will be his job to rebuild the GOP after the current and ongoing meltdown of the party...

There is no rebuilding the GOP after it finally melts down, especially by Ryan.

The Freedom Caucus (Ultra Conservative Wing) is very unhappy with him and how he isn't enforcing "conservative" values.
they are also threatening to bring the government down again before the election and derail any action submit to the House for vote that isn't approved by them.

The moderates/ old school conservatives are unhappy with Ryan for giving too much to the Freedom Caucus.
The GOP as a whole are unhappy with Ryan for being too nice to Obama and working too much with him.


He's struggling to get them to vote on stuff without bringing down the government at every chance.


If anything happens the GOP will fracture for good into multiple parties, with the Freedom Caucus/Tea Party part keeping the GOP name (They have the main donors backing them).

Jeb Bush will vote against Trump the convention.

That's because they want a puppet in the White House that will do their bidding and that isn't going to be Trump. I'm sure Soros is upset.

Weren't there 3 parties major parties before? I'm surprised none of them have formed together to make a new one (I don't count the Tea Party as a real one, more of an unfunny joke that went on for too long).

Tea Party was absorbed and merged with the Conservative wing of the GOP.
They make up the Freedom Caucus in the Congress.

I mean yes there has been brief periods in U.S. History were 3 major parties existed at once.

Once we had the Whigs, Federalist and Democrats-Republicans (Democrats today) existing all in the 1820s, but the Federalist dissolved ending the period called the First Party System.

Then the Second Party System lasted until 1854 and was dominated by Democrats-Republicans (then eventually Democrats) and Whigs.

In the 1850s there was Whigs, Democrats, Republicans as the 3 major parties.
Then by 1858, the Whigs and their smaller successors were absorbed into the Republicans.
Election day 1858 was dominated by Democrats (the Conservative Party) and the newly created Republicans (founded in 1854 in Michigan. The widely liberal and progressive Party).
This is known as the Third Party System, this literally lasted until TR presidency.
Near the end of the system, the GOP sold it's sole to Big Business and moved far right to become the Conservative Party most of us hate. They did this to stay in power.


At the end of the Third Party System and in the early years of the Fourth Party System there was the 4 national parties for about 20 years.

There was the Progressive Party, the Republican Party (now extremely conservative party and controlled by big business), the Democrats (now centrists), and the one time Bull Moose Party (Created by TR after the Republicans wouldn't let him have the nomination again).
The Progressive Party merged with Democrats to complete their push.
Bull Moose was dissolved in 1913 when TR lost the election.
In 1914 the system was back to Democrats and Republicans.

The Fourth Party system ended with the Great Depression and FDR's landslide Election.
The political system and people realigned to the Democrats becoming full on progressive/liberal aka new deal and the Republicans being pushed into opposition for almost 50 years. This allowed for great reforms to take place.

Though many like myself believe we entered the Sixth Party system with the election of Reagan reenergizing the GOP or in 1994 when the GOP took back the House of Representatives in 1994 returning them to power.

Though it probably starts with Reagan election in 1980, because he heavily started the process of polarizing the country politically by refusing to compromise on conservative values. It was his way or no way.

The 80s and 90s are the transitional period as the political system realigned to it's current form.

We saw the Green Party have a significant contender in 2000 with Ralph Nader running for President.
We saw the Reform Party have a serious contender in 1992 and 1996 taking almost 20% of the popular vote for Perot.
Both parties have fallen from national status.

In this most likely new system we saw Democrats become centrist in the 80s and 90s, while Republicans went further right and conservative.
In 2000 the system reached the final alignment with Democrats embracing liberalism/left politics again and Republicans move to the extreme right and conservative side.

2008 was the culmination of the Democrats move to the left with Obama election.
I mean it ended with a public backlash giving the GOP back the House in 2012 and the Senate in 2014, though the Democrats should win them back this November if not a supermajority.


The point is the U.S. has spent nearly it's whole history with TWO PARTY SYSTEM in place.

As George Soros is a liberal, I doubt he'd have much influence over any Republican President, hence he'd have no reason to be upset.

Soros has power over everything. Depends on how much money one has. Like in that documentary I posted - Soros has collapsed 4 currencies and the dollar is the next to go. He wants Hillary - he's already her biggest donor. Mr. Aw wants to be the leader of the UN. He's already done quite a bit of damage to the country and now Hillary has to come in to finish the job so they can have their One World Order. There's going to be a war though because people aren't just going to give up easily. That's why gun sales are through the roof. People know something is coming especially if the GOP doesn't nominate Trump like the people want.

Here is the headline about Mr. Aw and the UN. Boy, Mr. Aw looks like he really hates Netanyahu.


http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... netanyahu/

A plurality of the GOP electorate have decided that they want a Democrat as nominee this time round. Okay, but they shouldn't be surprised when the rest of the party doesn't fall into lockstep.

Trump's new finance guy is a Goldman Sachs veteran who has also worked for Soros. By November, Trump will be attacking Hillary as too conservative.

^^^
I wouldn't trust Bitterbart for as far as I could throw it.

I think you people on the right have made Soros into some satanic figure with supernatural powers. Neither Soros or Obama are the Antichrist, and certainly don't have the reach you imagine either to have.